WEBVTT 1 00:00:20.990 --> 00:00:21.820 WLWV School Board: Thank you. 2 00:00:23.270 --> 00:00:42.689 WLWV School Board: I'm going to call to order this evening's Westland Wilsonville School Board meeting. I'm going to pass it to Director Douglas for the roll call, please. Thank you. Director. Shoemaker. Here, director, sloop here, chair Taylor, present vice chair. Wyatt. Here, Director Vidal here. Thank you. Wow! 3 00:00:44.930 --> 00:00:45.970 WLWV School Board: All right. 4 00:00:50.270 --> 00:00:55.109 WLWV School Board: We're going to have something a little bit different this evening than we traditionally do. 5 00:00:57.710 --> 00:01:03.090 WLWV School Board: This was a board meeting that originally was on our calendar 6 00:01:03.330 --> 00:01:07.750 WLWV School Board: as a special board meeting there was originally there would be 7 00:01:08.040 --> 00:01:12.330 WLWV School Board: no public comment for this meeting, but as a board we 8 00:01:12.610 --> 00:01:20.900 WLWV School Board: took a vote amongst ourselves, and because of the topic of the meeting and the and the 9 00:01:21.050 --> 00:01:25.710 WLWV School Board: the heightened you know, I guess 10 00:01:25.970 --> 00:01:30.639 WLWV School Board: interests in this meeting. We decided as a board that 11 00:01:30.810 --> 00:01:33.580 WLWV School Board: we would have a public comment. Section. 12 00:01:34.040 --> 00:01:43.059 WLWV School Board: We also had conflicting events this evening for some of our elementary schools primary schools. However, you refer to them. 13 00:01:43.803 --> 00:01:46.909 WLWV School Board: They have their traditional Omsi night. So 14 00:01:47.130 --> 00:01:50.100 WLWV School Board: this meeting was moved forward to allow 15 00:01:50.270 --> 00:01:57.549 WLWV School Board: those parents who will be attending Omsi night in just a little bit the opportunity to 16 00:01:57.700 --> 00:02:17.850 WLWV School Board: be able to listen to public comment, or come forward and present the board with their own public comments. So we don't traditionally meet at 4 30. But we wanted to to do that, and we are also going to do something a little different. We're going to have public comment first, st which is not something that we traditionally do 17 00:02:17.980 --> 00:02:28.680 WLWV School Board: in the spirit of allowing these parents to transition from here to Portland with traffic. So if 18 00:02:29.090 --> 00:02:36.340 WLWV School Board: you didn't get the opportunity to sign up on the public comment sheet. Just 19 00:02:36.700 --> 00:02:43.749 WLWV School Board: raise your hand. If I've missed anyone, and we'll make sure that at the end of this we'll we'll give you the opportunity to 20 00:02:43.870 --> 00:02:46.449 WLWV School Board: address the board and and make your comment. 21 00:02:49.410 --> 00:02:55.500 WLWV School Board: We may have some folks who haven't gone through public comment before. 22 00:02:55.620 --> 00:02:58.549 WLWV School Board: Usually at our board meetings. We have 23 00:03:00.600 --> 00:03:03.179 WLWV School Board: kind of people that are familiar with that process. 24 00:03:03.790 --> 00:03:19.379 WLWV School Board: So I will do something that I normally don't do. I don't normally go through every single rule, which is quite substantial. But since we have probably some 1st timers, I want to let you know what public comment is and what it isn't. 25 00:03:19.780 --> 00:03:20.640 WLWV School Board: So 26 00:03:20.800 --> 00:03:31.340 WLWV School Board: in the spirit of that I'll just read this. You can bear with me. I'm a little plugged up tonight. I've been sick for a while. So if I fumble my words or something like that, I just ask you for a little grace. 27 00:03:31.930 --> 00:03:32.790 WLWV School Board: All right. 28 00:03:33.060 --> 00:03:34.280 WLWV School Board: So public comment. 29 00:03:34.410 --> 00:03:37.790 WLWV School Board: Thank you for taking the time today to share with us 30 00:03:38.130 --> 00:03:41.740 WLWV School Board: and take part in this public comment section. 31 00:03:41.920 --> 00:03:52.739 WLWV School Board: If you wish to make a public comment, please sign up on the sheet as I mentioned. If you haven't signed up, I will come back and ask if you'd like to come forward. Just hold up your hand, and 32 00:03:52.890 --> 00:03:59.529 WLWV School Board: we'll look to try to find you. It is very bright up here, so I can't see your faces. I can see bodies so just know that 33 00:03:59.730 --> 00:04:01.940 WLWV School Board: the public comment is a time 34 00:04:02.400 --> 00:04:08.980 WLWV School Board: the Board uses to collect information rather than engage in dialogue. So this is not a town hall. If you will. 35 00:04:09.080 --> 00:04:11.019 WLWV School Board: we will not respond to you. 36 00:04:11.360 --> 00:04:22.880 WLWV School Board: The Board encourages speakers not to mistake the Board silent for a lack of interest or care. We are listening carefully, and probably taking notes. So if you see us 37 00:04:23.040 --> 00:04:29.789 WLWV School Board: write some notes, it's we might be wanting to remember you or send you an email or something. 38 00:04:29.940 --> 00:04:45.240 WLWV School Board: If you're asking the district or board to respond or provide information. Please provide your contact information with the district or the Board secretary, so that the appropriate person may follow up with you the public comment. Time is not a forum or a singling out 39 00:04:45.410 --> 00:04:54.450 WLWV School Board: individuals in the district, or employees or students for complaints. If you have a complaint about an individual student or district employee. 40 00:04:54.640 --> 00:05:01.210 WLWV School Board: Please do not mention them by name, or provide information that would allow for them to be identified. 41 00:05:01.660 --> 00:05:09.090 WLWV School Board: Please use the district complaint process accessible on our website to help resolve individual situations or concerns 42 00:05:09.360 --> 00:05:16.700 WLWV School Board: the public comment. Time is for addressing the board and not an audience. So this is not a your soapbox moment, or your 43 00:05:17.920 --> 00:05:20.590 WLWV School Board: audition for something else. 44 00:05:20.730 --> 00:05:23.669 WLWV School Board: All comments will be given their due respect by the board. 45 00:05:25.060 --> 00:05:27.252 WLWV School Board: And if you have 46 00:05:28.030 --> 00:05:34.380 WLWV School Board: a member of the audience who is speaking, we ask that you're courteous. We ask that you have no clapping, no booing. 47 00:05:34.490 --> 00:05:40.889 WLWV School Board: There will be other people who haven't given public comment before, or who have a fear of public speaking 48 00:05:41.100 --> 00:05:44.100 WLWV School Board: and claps and boos do not create 49 00:05:44.360 --> 00:05:52.290 WLWV School Board: a welcoming environment. We can take it. We have thick skin, so it's not about us. It's about the people who may not be comfortable speaking. 50 00:05:53.040 --> 00:06:05.099 WLWV School Board: Please keep your comments to 3 min. If 3 min is not enough time, you're welcome to reach out to the district office or board at a later time, or submit materials to the board or district that you would like us to see 51 00:06:05.950 --> 00:06:11.619 WLWV School Board: the order of public comment that will be taken. Residents in person, addressing the Board will go first.st 52 00:06:12.110 --> 00:06:23.299 WLWV School Board: Residents, remotely addressing the Board will go next, and we do not have any public comment that is virtual or remote. So we won't have to worry about that today. 53 00:06:23.990 --> 00:06:33.139 WLWV School Board: non-residents, no address provided in person addressing the Board and non-residents, no address provided remotely addressing the board. 54 00:06:33.330 --> 00:06:38.839 WLWV School Board: So if there are more requests for public comment, then our time may allow 55 00:06:39.010 --> 00:06:46.650 WLWV School Board: I may organize public comment speakers to be limited to a certain time or topic. 56 00:06:47.410 --> 00:06:51.270 WLWV School Board: as depending on the number that we have. I can adjust that a little bit. 57 00:06:51.540 --> 00:06:55.919 WLWV School Board: and if time allows remaining speakers on the same topics, we'll 58 00:06:56.120 --> 00:06:59.079 WLWV School Board: may be permitted to speak, depending on how long we go? 59 00:06:59.698 --> 00:07:02.031 WLWV School Board: What I would like to do 60 00:07:03.520 --> 00:07:08.860 WLWV School Board: with this list is really find out. Typically, I will go on order of sign up. 61 00:07:09.000 --> 00:07:24.109 WLWV School Board: But in the spirit of trying to get some of the parents who have to transition out of here. I'm going to start with those parents from Cedar Oak, Stafford, or excuse me, Cedar, Oak, and Bolton, who have their Omsi night this evening. So 62 00:07:24.530 --> 00:07:27.519 WLWV School Board: if you are not from Cedar Oak or 63 00:07:27.670 --> 00:07:32.080 WLWV School Board: Bolton, I'm going to ask that you'll allow me to come back to you. 64 00:07:32.626 --> 00:07:36.060 WLWV School Board: And I'm gonna go to the next name. Does that make sense? 65 00:07:36.280 --> 00:07:37.449 WLWV School Board: Okay, thank you. 66 00:07:42.700 --> 00:07:48.210 WLWV School Board: And some of the names I will recognize, and I will know that you're not one of those parents, but 67 00:07:48.370 --> 00:07:56.310 WLWV School Board: I don't know every name on here, and we will jump right into it 68 00:08:00.260 --> 00:08:05.291 WLWV School Board: is Luke Weinbrick, are you with? 69 00:08:08.610 --> 00:08:11.229 WLWV School Board: okay, I'm gonna come back to you, then, please. 70 00:08:11.860 --> 00:08:16.030 WLWV School Board: Amanda Brookshire, are you with cedar oak? Or 71 00:08:18.760 --> 00:08:23.910 WLWV School Board: oh, yeah, then come on up, then come on. Oh, I'm sorry you're not going. I'm sorry you're not going, so I'll come back to you. 72 00:08:24.930 --> 00:08:29.499 WLWV School Board: Aria Graham not going. Omsi. Okay. 73 00:08:32.280 --> 00:08:33.280 WLWV School Board: Zeal. 74 00:08:33.470 --> 00:08:34.859 WLWV School Board: Are you? 75 00:08:35.150 --> 00:08:35.943 WLWV School Board: All right? 76 00:08:36.650 --> 00:08:39.189 WLWV School Board: Welcome. You got it. 77 00:08:39.650 --> 00:09:00.900 WLWV School Board: That's the 1st time, 1st time out of like we're on what our like 7th meeting. So yay, hopefully, this is our last one. She has the capacity to learn. I'm going to keep it really short tonight. I signed up later, so that I would have time to think about what to say. But I think I really only have one last question or point for deliberation, for your 78 00:09:00.930 --> 00:09:12.639 WLWV School Board: for your thought process tonight. We got an email earlier today talking about the sale of oplander, which is, of course, no surprise. You know you. You brought it up in the last Board meeting. I would love to understand 79 00:09:12.830 --> 00:09:14.310 WLWV School Board: how the 80 00:09:14.640 --> 00:09:28.959 WLWV School Board: funds that would come from the sale of Oppenlander would help close the deficit, or at least partially close the deficit. If that money is to be used for land purchase, how are we able to use it 81 00:09:29.090 --> 00:09:34.430 WLWV School Board: to help kind of stem the gap. So that's my only question tonight. And thank you. Thank you for all your time. 82 00:09:34.890 --> 00:09:35.760 WLWV School Board: Thank you. 83 00:09:41.100 --> 00:09:45.300 WLWV School Board: All right, Page, are you 84 00:09:48.340 --> 00:09:50.840 WLWV School Board: okay? I'm gonna then I'll come back to you. 85 00:09:52.700 --> 00:09:53.870 WLWV School Board: Is it? 86 00:09:54.020 --> 00:09:55.770 WLWV School Board: Eileen? Aline? 87 00:10:00.470 --> 00:10:01.260 WLWV School Board: Okay? 88 00:10:02.090 --> 00:10:04.740 WLWV School Board: And Barbara Stratt? 89 00:10:05.950 --> 00:10:10.080 WLWV School Board: Okay, come back. And Athena, Contreras. 90 00:10:14.270 --> 00:10:16.770 WLWV School Board: are you headed in? Om Omsi this evening. 91 00:10:24.470 --> 00:10:27.200 WLWV School Board: Okay, so I'll come back to you then. Thank you. 92 00:10:28.530 --> 00:10:30.859 WLWV School Board: And Pete. 93 00:10:31.160 --> 00:10:31.860 WLWV School Board: Excuse me. 94 00:10:32.060 --> 00:10:35.240 WLWV School Board: Pk, Runkles, are you at Bolton or Cedar Oak? 95 00:10:36.140 --> 00:10:36.940 WLWV School Board: Okay? 96 00:10:37.590 --> 00:10:43.500 WLWV School Board: And Rachel Beavers, are you okay? 97 00:10:45.850 --> 00:10:50.179 WLWV School Board: Alright. So well, I'm glad we moved that up 98 00:10:58.960 --> 00:11:07.289 WLWV School Board: alright. So I'm gonna go back to the top and go back to normal order, and there's not 99 00:11:07.980 --> 00:11:18.590 WLWV School Board: a whole lot of public comments. So I'm just going to go in the the order, and I'm not going to go in order of topic. I'm just going to let 100 00:11:18.740 --> 00:11:26.169 WLWV School Board: each person addresses, and we'll move on through all right, Luke Weinbrick. 101 00:11:37.590 --> 00:11:59.739 WLWV School Board: Good evening, members of the board. My name is Luke Weinbrecht. I'm also here with other Board members, Kate, Jesse and Carla. And we are speaking tonight on behalf of the parent teacher organization at Sunset primary school. We appreciate the opportunity to share our concerns regarding the proposed school consolidations and their impact on the sunset. Primary students and families. 102 00:11:59.790 --> 00:12:14.830 WLWV School Board: 1st and foremost, we understand the difficulty, the difficult budgetary decisions facing the district. We want to thank the Board for taking time to consider the many impacts. School closures would inevitably have on the children and families in our community. 103 00:12:14.840 --> 00:12:39.220 WLWV School Board: We are here tonight to address the concerns brought forward by our community members regarding the proposed reassignment of sunset students from Rosemont Ridge, Middle School to Athe Creek Middle School. If the district proceeds with closing certain small schools, this decision would disrupt one aspect of what makes sunset a thriving neighborhood school, a sense of community and proximity that extends beyond the elementary years. 104 00:12:39.260 --> 00:12:51.810 WLWV School Board: Sunset primary is one of the only elementary schools in the district that has students who live within walking boundary of Rosemont Ridge, Middle School. Some of some students within the Sunset community have homes directly across the street from the middle school 105 00:12:53.190 --> 00:13:18.480 WLWV School Board: studies consistently demonstrate the benefit of attending local schools, walking or biking to school, fosters physical and mental well-being, and improves academic performance by allowing students to begin their day more focused and ready to learn. Many sunset families chose their homes specifically for the proximity to Rosemont Ridge, middle school, planning for their students or their children to seemingly transition from elementary to middle school, alongside friends and neighbors 106 00:13:18.640 --> 00:13:39.339 WLWV School Board: assigning sunset students to a 3 creek would end up would up in those plans, forcing children on longer bus rides and increasing traffic in areas ill-equipped to handle it. Not only is this unnecessary bussing a hindrance to families and the community. It is an additional monetary cost to our district at a time when we have no extra funds to spare. 107 00:13:39.530 --> 00:14:05.570 WLWV School Board: Additionally a reassignment would erode the strong community bonds our families have built over years of shared experiences between sunset, primary and Rosemont Ridge. Sunset families frequently volunteer participate in events and contribute to the success of not only our elementary school, but our but Rosemont Ridge, as well. By fragmenting this community, we risk losing the parent engagement that is critical to student success. 108 00:14:05.720 --> 00:14:16.309 WLWV School Board: The community feedback is clear. Parents are deeply concerned about the impact of these changes. They are frustrated by the lack of transparent communication about 109 00:14:17.190 --> 00:14:40.100 WLWV School Board: the reassignment, and feel these decisions disproportionately burden families and students. We urge the Board to reevaluate the proposed reassignment and ensure that students are assigned to the school closest to where they live. Rosemont Ridge is within walking distance from most sunset families. It's not just a convenience, but a necessity for working parents and a cornerstone of our children's education and well-being. 110 00:14:40.100 --> 00:14:51.110 WLWV School Board: We believe that there are better ways to address budget constraints without sacrificing community cohesion or educational experience for our students. Thank you for taking the time to consider this. I also have copies of our statement, if you'd like. 111 00:14:54.400 --> 00:14:57.189 WLWV School Board: and we had some new 112 00:14:58.990 --> 00:15:03.470 WLWV School Board: speakers, and so I'm going to go back and just check to see if any of them are 113 00:15:04.730 --> 00:15:07.949 WLWV School Board: looking forward to hopping into traffic over to Omsi. 114 00:15:08.110 --> 00:15:17.309 WLWV School Board: So, Ursula, are you from Bolton or Cedar Oak Stan? All right. Welcome. 115 00:15:21.000 --> 00:15:25.170 WLWV School Board: John Armstrong, are you from Bolton or Cedar oak? 116 00:15:25.380 --> 00:15:26.820 WLWV School Board: And are you going to Omsi night. 117 00:15:27.350 --> 00:15:28.589 WLWV School Board: Okay, come on up. 118 00:15:37.036 --> 00:16:00.870 WLWV School Board: thank you all for the opportunity and for listening and hearing us all out. I think I've you know, expressed it to you before, particularly at Bolton. My daughter's at Bolton. We trust, you guys, we trust the process. We trust the district, because when we look at it. We've seen the results with our kids. My daughter's been in there for 3 years. Now 119 00:16:00.990 --> 00:16:15.059 WLWV School Board: I've seen how great she's done. We see all of that. And we see the results in our own children, our own communities, the people we know, the kids that we see every day. And I think the one thing that that becomes clear is like 120 00:16:15.770 --> 00:16:29.999 WLWV School Board: we've seen kind of felt a lack of transparency with it throughout the process, not knowing what our options were necessarily being asked to provide options on our own, all of those things. And 121 00:16:30.120 --> 00:16:35.649 WLWV School Board: we want to keep that trust, and we want to build on it. And we? We look at it that 122 00:16:36.030 --> 00:16:45.209 WLWV School Board: represent us represent us when you make that decision. Because voting to close those schools doesn't represent our communities, it simply does not. 123 00:16:45.340 --> 00:16:50.999 WLWV School Board: And you know, when we think about that, and we think about the bond that has to be considered. 124 00:16:51.190 --> 00:16:53.570 WLWV School Board: If the schools close, that we can't 125 00:16:53.720 --> 00:16:59.560 WLWV School Board: approve that bond, you know we can get out there, and we can campaign against it if we have to. 126 00:16:59.660 --> 00:17:10.169 WLWV School Board: But we can't and when we look at the other. The other things that you are representatives to vote against, that breaks that trust for us. And so I just wanted to 127 00:17:11.220 --> 00:17:17.410 WLWV School Board: have my chance to get here and say that because we do look at you as our public servants and representatives, and 128 00:17:17.640 --> 00:17:21.530 WLWV School Board: it just doesn't feel like it represents our community to close them. 129 00:17:21.750 --> 00:17:22.579 WLWV School Board: Thank you. 130 00:17:30.580 --> 00:17:31.859 WLWV School Board: Christy. Lands! 131 00:17:32.070 --> 00:17:36.089 WLWV School Board: Are you going to Omsi, night or no? 132 00:17:37.480 --> 00:17:38.230 WLWV School Board: All right. 133 00:17:44.330 --> 00:17:46.509 WLWV School Board: we'll go back, Dean, sir. 134 00:17:52.390 --> 00:17:53.270 WLWV School Board: More. Kevin. 135 00:17:54.620 --> 00:17:56.519 WLWV School Board: We're not going in order today. 136 00:17:56.880 --> 00:18:16.179 WLWV School Board: Good evening, Dean, sir. You're in West Lynn. You gave us the comfortable seats, a lot of people staying. So I appreciate that I want to read you something. Education must be balanced, the whole person, intellectually, emotionally, physically, ethically, uniqueness must be cherished, and we must consider each student as part of the community. This community from birth through life. 137 00:18:16.280 --> 00:18:21.710 WLWV School Board: The development of character is essential in the education of the child. That's part of the Westland vision. 138 00:18:21.790 --> 00:18:32.539 WLWV School Board: We're not in the in the district headquarters, so I don't know if that's up on the wall or not. But small schools and Oppenlander, the actions that you're proposing are connected. They're tied together by the budget. 139 00:18:32.600 --> 00:18:51.850 WLWV School Board: Both are sacrificing this theme of the district's vision statement and short term, in my opinion, short term and inappropriate patches to the district's budget shortfall in Oppenlander. We're talking about taking land, banking resources and cash, and turning that into short-term reserves and short term operational expenses, and with the closure of schools. 140 00:18:51.850 --> 00:19:06.239 WLWV School Board: the discussion that I've heard. I'm not intimate with that because I'm long past that with my kids, but with the closure of schools we're talking about breaking up communities and and local unity that those students have all in support of that vision. 141 00:19:06.330 --> 00:19:28.999 WLWV School Board: None of, in my opinion, none of today's budget problems are a surprise. The staff and the board have been talking about these things. We've had this on and off for a long time. I look back at the comment from the last Board meeting where it was described, that Pers has a side account to help us manage the expenses of Pers. We've been dealing with these issues. There's not a big surprise in the expenses of the small schools. 142 00:19:29.200 --> 00:19:55.820 WLWV School Board: So I'm disappointed. But I'm also hopeful. Others are going to speak about small schools today, but I'm disappointed relative to Oppenlander. I'm the founder of the friends of Oppenlander. It has a 40 plus year history in this community supporting that vision, growing kids, growing youth, growing respect, providing alternatives to screens. And the school district is turning their back on that. They are not working with the city. 143 00:19:55.820 --> 00:20:17.159 WLWV School Board: You've issued a demand to the city. You either do this with Oppenlander in terms of price and terms, and you're not meeting with the city you've denied their request to meet. You've denied our request to meet friends of Oppenlander has asked that that you meet with us. We actually want to write some checks. I don't believe that you're acting in good faith that you've talked about for the last year or 2, 144 00:20:17.160 --> 00:20:44.529 WLWV School Board: but I'm hopeful, as the last gentleman said, that you, the board who work for us, will represent us and the community, and likewise you. The board, will hold the district staff accountable, because that's how we get our accountability in there, that if you're not getting what you need in terms of information or choices or alternatives for any of these proposed decisions don't just assume there's only one way you need to take your time. You need to deliberate, and you need to ask for those extra questions. 145 00:20:44.530 --> 00:21:02.710 WLWV School Board: I'm asking that the district come back to the table with Oppenlander. We're asking that we can have a good faith negotiation that's win win for the city, for the community and for the school district. We love our school love this beautiful facility, but we've got to be working together for this. Thank you. All appreciate your hard work. 146 00:21:07.680 --> 00:21:09.230 WLWV School Board: Amanda Brookshire. 147 00:21:24.100 --> 00:21:26.940 WLWV School Board: Hi! My name's Amanda Brookshire. Gardner. 148 00:21:27.478 --> 00:21:45.270 WLWV School Board: I just want to thank you again for all the hard work you do for this district for our children, and doing the hard work of representing the voters in a representative democracy. The job of hearing what people you represent have to say can be thankless. 149 00:21:45.890 --> 00:21:50.110 WLWV School Board: and it's a thankless task. And I just want to say thanks again for the service to all of you 150 00:21:50.410 --> 00:21:53.689 WLWV School Board: as residents of this district. We have trusted you 151 00:21:53.970 --> 00:21:57.330 WLWV School Board: not only with our votes, but also with our pocketbooks. 152 00:21:57.840 --> 00:22:02.149 WLWV School Board: We have passed every bond, every levy, that you have deemed necessary. 153 00:22:02.520 --> 00:22:05.429 WLWV School Board: and we have supported you as our trusted leaders. 154 00:22:09.960 --> 00:22:21.449 WLWV School Board: you have guided this district. I feel confident that when the possibility of closing our schools due to budget shortfalls was proposed. You have heard what the people you represent have to say 155 00:22:22.340 --> 00:22:28.409 WLWV School Board: and what they're asking of you, and we appreciate you, and we will continue to support this district. 156 00:22:28.620 --> 00:22:32.039 WLWV School Board: and we appreciate that you have done your job to listen. 157 00:22:32.510 --> 00:22:37.519 WLWV School Board: and we'll be here for you and support you in what is obviously going to be a tough financial year to come. 158 00:22:37.800 --> 00:22:39.149 WLWV School Board: Thank you for your time. 159 00:22:44.860 --> 00:22:46.230 WLWV School Board: Aria Graham. 160 00:22:56.070 --> 00:23:19.350 WLWV School Board: Hi! It's me again. Aria Graham from Bolton Primary School. Thank you for letting me talk to you today. I heard you were making decisions today and wanted to talk to you one last time before you decide what to do. If Bolton is shut down, a lot of bad things will happen like the teachers 161 00:23:19.350 --> 00:23:43.450 WLWV School Board: would lose their jobs. The kids would be separated from their friends, and everybody would be so sad. My little sister even said she would not go to school again. If Bolton is closed you would break a community. Bolton is a family forever and ever. We love each other, and we love. 162 00:23:43.480 --> 00:23:49.660 WLWV School Board: and we all love Bolton. We all think it is the best school 163 00:23:49.780 --> 00:24:19.299 WLWV School Board: we want to keep our teachers like Miss Clearwater, Mr. Porter, Miss Nelson, Miss P. Miss amber, Miss H. Miss B. And Miss Liston. We love our teachers so much, and they love us a lot, too, and we all love Bolton. Please do not close down, Bolton. I am asking that you find another way. We will do more fundraisers. If we need to 164 00:24:19.430 --> 00:24:38.969 WLWV School Board: do or please come up with a different idea. We are the Bolton bees. We are kind, we are friends, we are a community, we are family, no matter what comes our way, we will face it together. Please do not close, Bolton. Thank you for your time. 165 00:24:54.620 --> 00:24:56.239 WLWV School Board: Paige Stevens. 166 00:25:05.480 --> 00:25:07.910 WLWV School Board: Sure how I'm going to follow that 167 00:25:08.780 --> 00:25:17.580 WLWV School Board: my name is Paige Stevens. I am a member of the Westland community, and a parent of a 1st grader at Bolton. 168 00:25:18.175 --> 00:25:30.589 WLWV School Board: Thank you guys for taking the time to be here tonight. Thank you. To a couple of you who have had the honor of having coffee with and discussing my concerns with about the small school closures. 169 00:25:31.746 --> 00:25:38.680 WLWV School Board: My husband and daughter and I moved to the Bolton neighborhood during the pandemic 170 00:25:39.305 --> 00:25:41.900 WLWV School Board: I'm a nurse, so I didn't get to work from home. 171 00:25:42.707 --> 00:25:47.380 WLWV School Board: And having an only child. It was a tough time. 172 00:25:47.490 --> 00:25:53.120 WLWV School Board: We immediately, when we moved to our neighborhood, which is the street right behind Bolton. 173 00:25:53.985 --> 00:25:58.449 WLWV School Board: found that there are 5 other 1st graders on our block. 174 00:25:59.536 --> 00:26:05.769 WLWV School Board: We instantly had a family and a community and a neighborhood 175 00:26:06.440 --> 00:26:08.810 WLWV School Board: that they just don't make anymore. 176 00:26:09.070 --> 00:26:17.160 WLWV School Board: So I just wanted to say, it's not. It's not just the size of the classes. It's not just the school. 177 00:26:18.030 --> 00:26:21.089 WLWV School Board: it's a family to us, and it's 178 00:26:21.280 --> 00:26:29.230 WLWV School Board: a representation of our entire neighborhood who we are. The Halloween decorations that we put out the 179 00:26:29.780 --> 00:26:40.970 WLWV School Board: you know, it's all for our kids. And there's it's great to have this neighborhood where my kid can actually play in my front yard with other kids her age, and we're not scared for them. 180 00:26:41.830 --> 00:26:46.160 WLWV School Board: And I'm worried that if we no longer have our school. 181 00:26:47.250 --> 00:26:54.630 WLWV School Board: our neighborhood is less desirable for younger new families, and that won't be the case anymore. So 182 00:26:55.298 --> 00:27:00.169 WLWV School Board: thank you for taking the time to listen, and I hope you vote no 183 00:27:00.360 --> 00:27:03.519 WLWV School Board: against the small school closure. Thank you. 184 00:27:14.170 --> 00:27:15.876 WLWV School Board: Eileen Semantel. 185 00:27:27.860 --> 00:27:30.930 WLWV School Board: I'm sorry. Am I coughing? I couldn't hear a word you said. What was that? 186 00:27:33.220 --> 00:27:34.400 WLWV School Board: Okay, thank you. 187 00:27:36.680 --> 00:27:45.180 WLWV School Board: I've got a cough that just won't go away. So I apologize this evening. If you hear me up here. I can't wait. Got plenty of cough drops, but we'll see if they work. 188 00:27:46.130 --> 00:27:47.230 WLWV School Board: Barbara Stratt. 189 00:27:55.110 --> 00:28:04.269 WLWV School Board: Hello, amazing Board! I've spoken many times in front of you guys, and I just so appreciate how much you've shown up. And I'm reading tonight on behalf of the small school alliance. 190 00:28:04.420 --> 00:28:29.299 WLWV School Board: the community was asked, When do small schools become too small? I believe we have discovered the answer. Thanks to small schools task force. 2 studies were brought to light. Both declared that on average the research indicates that the effective size for elementary school is in the range of 3 to 400 students. So does this research play out in our own district. Dr. Prair has been known to say that over 600 is too large for a community. 191 00:28:29.300 --> 00:28:50.479 WLWV School Board: And what is our ideal size? Well, for academics? Absolutely. Trillium is the only school above 400 that scores above average, but it also has the least disadvantaged student population of any school, both in terms of economically disadvantaged and special education. Even when our schools barely scrape over 400, the academics begin to fall. 192 00:28:50.480 --> 00:29:09.049 WLWV School Board: the schools with the most disadvantaged students plummet the fastest. What about the school, climate and student satisfaction? Thanks to the small school task force meetings. The district was tasked to produce the school's panorama studies results again, a greater proportion of smaller schools, rank higher than average 193 00:29:09.050 --> 00:29:22.470 WLWV School Board: per student reported well-being. What about the cost, effectiveness? What about the economics? Economies of scale in business, economies of scales produce cheaper results? How about for schools? Concern not about 194 00:29:22.470 --> 00:29:32.090 WLWV School Board: products and commerce than human performance. The above mentioned Hanover study determined that educational costs take the U shape. 195 00:29:32.090 --> 00:29:58.320 WLWV School Board: meaning that schools below an optimal level are more expensive per pupil. But schools above an optimal level also increase per pupil expenditures. In conclusion, the available research tends to show that while there are financial benefits to larger schools, the cost savings only realized until a certain point, and the very small schools and very large schools are generally the most expensive to operate 196 00:29:58.460 --> 00:30:11.589 WLWV School Board: in. Is that true of our school district? 2. Yes, Boone's Ferry, 498, the largest, and Bolton the smallest, are both the most expensive schools in our district far above the average. Well, what about the other? 197 00:30:11.690 --> 00:30:24.009 WLWV School Board: What about the under average can schools caught? Can schools be cost effective again between 3 and 400 students again. Yes, the last release numbers are from the 2023 198 00:30:24.010 --> 00:30:49.980 WLWV School Board: When Cedar Oak was at 3, 30, and it still falls below average. It is comparative to Bachman, who soars above 460, more than 100 students more. But is this just as cost effective in per student expenditures. So we know our students are happiest, perform the best and cost below average. When we keep our schools between 3 and 400 students. Thanks to the district's investigation, however, tense as it has been. 199 00:30:49.980 --> 00:31:04.949 WLWV School Board: we now know that this district is capable of creating happy, successful students at below average cost, with 6 schools in Westland and 4 schools in Wilsonville. As soon as Frog Pond opens, its enrollment is even out slowly, with soft boundaries. Sorry. One more sentence. 200 00:31:07.270 --> 00:31:14.350 WLWV School Board: It would. Westland. Our numbers bump over 4 30 students if you do soft boundaries. So 201 00:31:14.830 --> 00:31:17.160 WLWV School Board: have that in consideration. Thank you guys. 202 00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:28.699 WLWV School Board: I'm gonna run a quick check. 203 00:31:30.820 --> 00:31:35.050 WLWV School Board: Sarah Metland, are you going to Omsi night this evening? 204 00:31:40.280 --> 00:31:43.129 WLWV School Board: I had a question for you. Are you going to Omsi night this evening. 205 00:31:43.670 --> 00:31:45.450 WLWV School Board: Okay, go ahead and come on up there. 206 00:31:52.450 --> 00:32:01.789 WLWV School Board: Hi! I'm Sarah Matland. I wasn't actually going to talk tonight, because it makes me anxious, and I'm a full-time college student and haven't had a lot of time to put 207 00:32:02.180 --> 00:32:22.020 WLWV School Board: stuff together. But I've also been thinking about this forever, and having discussions with my neighborhood and strangers and I have 2 kids at Bolton. We live right up the hill from Bolton. My son started there 2019. So he was the first, st the last class that got to experience pre covid. Basically, that's at Bolton right now. 208 00:32:22.020 --> 00:32:49.169 WLWV School Board: I'm coming here with experience of a mother with a neurodivergent child who struggled with school refusal every morning that started in kindergarten, and it was really tricky to work through that with the disruption of school being closed and then coming back, and it all being weird and everybody being scared. Eventually I had to take my son out just to kind of get our bearings together, and Bolton came to me, the principal, the teachers, the staff 209 00:32:49.300 --> 00:32:57.280 WLWV School Board: they helped us put, they every accommodation I needed. They gave us they worked one on one with my child. 210 00:32:57.490 --> 00:33:17.939 WLWV School Board: They made it so that he loves school now, and he was a kid who did not want to go to school. We fought well. I didn't fight him. He fought me every morning. He didn't want to go and I am forever grateful because he was very close to being a homeschool kid, and Bolton fought to help him, and they listened to me. They listened to my family, and they love my kid. 211 00:33:17.950 --> 00:33:29.299 WLWV School Board: and that's not an experience you get from a school that is packed to the gills. That is an experience you get from a small school like he would not be in public school right now if he didn't have access 212 00:33:29.440 --> 00:33:35.449 WLWV School Board: to such a situation. The other thing I have a daughter. She is in 1st grade now. 213 00:33:35.700 --> 00:33:37.309 WLWV School Board: She loves her school. 214 00:33:38.210 --> 00:33:41.010 WLWV School Board: She believes she is a Bolton bee. 215 00:33:41.600 --> 00:33:43.860 WLWV School Board: If you were to close the school. 216 00:33:44.060 --> 00:33:49.209 WLWV School Board: my daughter, who is in 1st grade, you'll be taking that part of her away. 217 00:33:49.540 --> 00:33:52.410 WLWV School Board: She will no longer be a Bolton bee anymore. 218 00:33:52.580 --> 00:33:58.690 WLWV School Board: And I really want to see my daughter grow to be the best little bee. She can be 219 00:33:59.270 --> 00:34:05.450 WLWV School Board: so please vote no, keep my school open. We need this. Our neighborhood needs this school. 220 00:34:05.690 --> 00:34:06.480 WLWV School Board: Thank you. 221 00:34:12.840 --> 00:34:14.780 WLWV School Board: Athena Contreras 222 00:34:37.780 --> 00:34:38.600 WLWV School Board: bye. 223 00:34:39.010 --> 00:34:39.659 WLWV School Board: So 224 00:34:41.239 --> 00:34:44.503 WLWV School Board: I know this has not been an easy process, and 225 00:34:45.949 --> 00:34:50.720 WLWV School Board: and I know it's not an easy decision. I know you're trying to balance a lot of different things. 226 00:34:52.900 --> 00:34:56.330 WLWV School Board: But I do want to make a point of what is this Board's 227 00:34:56.449 --> 00:34:59.233 WLWV School Board: legacy gonna be, and that 228 00:35:00.330 --> 00:35:10.370 WLWV School Board: There have been a lot of stories in Oregon City, in Portland, in a lot of different places where schools have closed very rapidly. I don't know if you've heard of Hurricane Vicki. 229 00:35:11.170 --> 00:35:17.098 WLWV School Board: a superintendent who came in and closed like 9 schools. And 230 00:35:18.420 --> 00:35:21.970 WLWV School Board: left a little bit of chaos behind. 231 00:35:22.397 --> 00:35:29.569 WLWV School Board: And so I think it's really important to think about our legacy and what we're going to leave behind. And I think that this is a short term decision 232 00:35:30.260 --> 00:35:32.789 WLWV School Board: that has lasting repercussions. 233 00:35:34.870 --> 00:35:41.869 WLWV School Board: If we close the schools with the best educational outcomes rather than focusing on how to create more equity throughout the year the district 234 00:35:42.610 --> 00:35:48.059 WLWV School Board: by distributing students evenly throughout the district. Then what what is the legacy that we're going to leave behind? 235 00:35:49.090 --> 00:35:51.170 WLWV School Board: What is the legacy for the neighborhoods, too? 236 00:35:52.220 --> 00:36:00.580 WLWV School Board: Bolton Neighborhood Association, along with other neighborhood associations, have clearly stated that this will damage our neighbors, our neighborhoods. 237 00:36:01.410 --> 00:36:06.950 WLWV School Board: and history tells the same thing nationally, and locally 238 00:36:16.430 --> 00:36:23.339 WLWV School Board: If if the if the school property is sold. Could a private or charger school move in 239 00:36:23.820 --> 00:36:28.080 WLWV School Board: and further, siphon students away from the district? If it is least. 240 00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:36.709 WLWV School Board: would the same thing happen? Would we be competing? Will we basically be setting ourselves up in the to lose more students? 241 00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:41.240 WLWV School Board: If it's sold to a developer. 242 00:36:42.520 --> 00:36:47.580 WLWV School Board: especially with the new zoning laws that are coming. Are we going to have more apartments built? Are we going to have 243 00:36:48.318 --> 00:36:50.760 WLWV School Board: too many students in a few years? 244 00:36:52.240 --> 00:36:58.950 WLWV School Board: And if we're selling off a lot of our properties, including Open Lander and any other land banking that are 245 00:36:59.680 --> 00:37:02.294 WLWV School Board: the people who came before us. 246 00:37:02.900 --> 00:37:06.680 WLWV School Board: established for us then, and we're using it only for short term. 247 00:37:07.140 --> 00:37:08.170 WLWV School Board: Then. 248 00:37:10.100 --> 00:37:12.210 WLWV School Board: What? What's that? Where's that? Gonna leave us? 249 00:37:12.670 --> 00:37:20.000 WLWV School Board: The Oregon school Sightings handbook recommends buying more land to accommodate future growth growth, not selling 250 00:37:20.502 --> 00:37:42.569 WLWV School Board: to pay for our operating budget. And I think we can do it. And we also have a ton of solutions, a ton of things. If we look at those community schools, those community schools can bring in grant money like crazy and offer arts and music and other things. We have a lot of opportunity. You guys can take this sheet if you'd like. This is a lot of the different things about the 300 to 400 students. 251 00:37:42.720 --> 00:37:49.689 WLWV School Board: functional capacity versus Max, maximum capacity, and how that's going to affect other schools in our district. But if you guys would like. 252 00:37:57.540 --> 00:38:10.060 WLWV School Board: Oh, is it possible to sign up? My daughter is requesting randomly right now to to speak as well? Yes, she can. You can sign up and we'll get, and we'll have her come up. Where do I? Where do I? 253 00:38:12.430 --> 00:38:13.439 WLWV School Board: Yeah, thank you. 254 00:38:44.520 --> 00:38:46.200 WLWV School Board: Pk, Runkles. 255 00:38:55.510 --> 00:39:10.119 WLWV School Board: Mr. Chair, members of the Board members of the district. It's me again. Hi, thank you for having me, and I do want to thank the Board for all the time, and additional time for public comment, and listening deep listening that you've done with our communities. It really is appreciated. 256 00:39:10.450 --> 00:39:25.069 WLWV School Board: I know you've heard from me and my colleagues quite a lot. Some of my neighbors who have been on the small school task force. And I've been thinking about this as you have a lot, and, as you know, I have a background in assisting elected officials and school administrators. I've closed schools. 257 00:39:25.070 --> 00:39:43.450 WLWV School Board: I was part of the closing of Merrill Harsh University, for example, and I felt that at the time. That was the right decision to do so. I want you to know I'm not averse to closing things when they need to be closed. And when this topic 1st came up, my reaction was, let's see what gives our kids the best outcomes. Let's talk about that and see where we go. 258 00:39:43.600 --> 00:39:51.150 WLWV School Board: But I will tell you that throughout this I've read everything about this that I can get my hands on, and I don't understand why this is the only solution we're talking about. 259 00:39:51.250 --> 00:40:18.790 WLWV School Board: I know that it came up through the long range planning committee as it absolutely should have. This is the right time for them to raise this, but I don't understand why we're not looking at other solutions as well. To the community. This appears not transparent, and I feel like it's 1 of those things that happens because of the timing of different things, something comes up, and suddenly it appears that 2 things are related. When I saw the number that came out. It was 1.4 5 million is what the school district will save by closing a school. 260 00:40:19.120 --> 00:40:28.609 WLWV School Board: I don't understand how that helps us with our 15 million dollars budget shortfall to any large extent. Certainly not to the extent that's going to cause the problems that you've heard about. 261 00:40:28.750 --> 00:40:46.420 WLWV School Board: Now you've heard a lot of people come up here and talk rightly about the damage that this is going to cause to their communities and how much they love their schools. I also love my school and my community. But if there, if there were something in front of me that demonstrated why that was necessary, and how it's going to lead to better outcomes for our kids, I'd be for it. 262 00:40:46.460 --> 00:40:53.029 WLWV School Board: But I don't see that now. What I see is 2 things coming up at the same time and ending up feeling like they're connected. 263 00:40:53.040 --> 00:41:22.120 WLWV School Board: And if it were me sitting in the seats that you're sitting in right now, I would want to go back and see what other possible alternatives there are that might have less impacts to our community than this will have if it ends up being this one. Sure. But this doesn't feel like we're at a point where we really understand what those options are. I certainly have not heard them from from the district. It was a very thorough presentation at the last meeting, and I appreciated everything the superintendent had to say about the budget shortfall. It's real. We're not the only ones facing it. 264 00:41:22.120 --> 00:41:51.100 WLWV School Board: but we need to deal with it in a way that's smart, and that leads to future success for our students, and that really would require for me. If I were in your seat I would, and if I were your attorney, I would advise you to look at other options before you take this kind of step, even with the bond process coming up. That's not a reason to make a quick decision like this that's going to cause a lot of harm. So I appreciate you listening to me. I don't envy you. I'm glad I'm not sitting in your seats, but if I were, those were the things I'd be thinking about. So thank you for listening. 265 00:42:01.080 --> 00:42:02.679 WLWV School Board: Then do a quick spot. Check 266 00:42:03.070 --> 00:42:07.789 WLWV School Board: Mackenzie, Ezio, are you going to. Omsi night. 267 00:42:10.890 --> 00:42:11.550 WLWV School Board: Yeah. 268 00:42:15.970 --> 00:42:17.109 WLWV School Board: Was that a. Yes. 269 00:42:18.030 --> 00:42:20.300 WLWV School Board: Are you going to Omsi night this evening? 270 00:42:21.120 --> 00:42:22.919 WLWV School Board: Okay? Then I'm gonna come back to you. 271 00:42:23.400 --> 00:42:29.609 WLWV School Board: Okay? Sorry about that, as you can tell, I'm struggling up here. 272 00:42:33.680 --> 00:42:35.579 WLWV School Board: Okay, Rachel Beavers. 273 00:42:39.650 --> 00:42:42.099 WLWV School Board: Hi, did you guys receive my email? 274 00:42:42.450 --> 00:42:58.449 WLWV School Board: It was long. I'm sorry, but I want to revisit just a little of it. So 1.4 5 million. The cost benefit just doesn't seem like it's there. That's a lot of cost to the community, to our kids, to 275 00:42:58.840 --> 00:43:09.510 WLWV School Board: to the school district, and its ability to appear like it has everybody's interests in mind. That's a big cost 276 00:43:09.750 --> 00:43:12.199 WLWV School Board: for 1.4, 5 million dollars. 277 00:43:12.600 --> 00:43:13.570 WLWV School Board: So 278 00:43:13.770 --> 00:43:28.979 WLWV School Board: one of the things I mentioned in the email that I sent and is the idea of having something be reversible, easily reversible. There are a lot of newer things that are happening 279 00:43:29.280 --> 00:43:39.720 WLWV School Board: based on projects that were were going before the pandemic, or that were voted on in the last bond measure, and I realized that these are things that 280 00:43:39.880 --> 00:43:45.469 WLWV School Board: the community voted for. But they also voted for these schools. 281 00:43:45.800 --> 00:43:49.590 WLWV School Board: So I think everything should be on the table. 282 00:43:49.990 --> 00:43:55.280 WLWV School Board: So the primary schools are where our kids are introduced to public education. 283 00:43:55.610 --> 00:44:00.060 WLWV School Board: This is when they establish their relationship to education. 284 00:44:00.260 --> 00:44:08.119 WLWV School Board: Our kids. Success throughout their school years depends on this foundation. And this is where we want to cut. It just doesn't feel right. 285 00:44:08.840 --> 00:44:09.840 WLWV School Board: that's all I have 286 00:44:29.070 --> 00:44:30.170 WLWV School Board: just in time. 287 00:44:33.190 --> 00:44:34.200 WLWV School Board: Ursula. 288 00:44:41.490 --> 00:44:42.395 WLWV School Board: Hello! 289 00:44:43.770 --> 00:44:46.609 WLWV School Board: I just want to ask one question. 290 00:44:46.810 --> 00:44:51.710 WLWV School Board: and it's for you to please vote no option. Thank you. 291 00:44:56.810 --> 00:44:58.070 WLWV School Board: John Mccabe. 292 00:45:01.990 --> 00:45:06.970 WLWV School Board: Thank you, Greg Novak. 293 00:45:16.330 --> 00:45:19.055 WLWV School Board: Oh, like I can hear you. 294 00:45:19.850 --> 00:45:27.500 WLWV School Board: I don't think we have any more people going to Omsi this evening that are speaking. Are there any others in here going to Omsi 295 00:45:27.890 --> 00:45:31.710 WLWV School Board: that haven't had the opportunity to speak one. 296 00:45:32.440 --> 00:45:34.350 WLWV School Board: Oh, come on up! 297 00:45:37.480 --> 00:45:42.739 WLWV School Board: I would have gotten you earlier had I known that. So my apologies. 298 00:45:53.900 --> 00:45:55.020 WLWV School Board: Hi! 299 00:45:55.270 --> 00:46:04.569 WLWV School Board: My name is Alex, and I'm a 5th grader, Mrs. Oliverdean's class, and also 300 00:46:04.690 --> 00:46:19.349 WLWV School Board: like I know, I'll be leaving Bolton, no matter what. But I have a brother named Charlie in 3rd grade in Mrs. Clearwater's class, and he will, and if the school closes he'll miss 2 years. 301 00:46:20.440 --> 00:46:24.620 WLWV School Board: and also it can affect me, because. 302 00:46:25.479 --> 00:46:40.230 WLWV School Board: I've like there's this teacher that I'm really like best friends with. Her name is Mrs. Maxwell, and he might be in our class if the school doesn't close, so I'd like to come to his. 303 00:46:40.490 --> 00:46:46.079 WLWV School Board: But also I feel like this 304 00:46:47.030 --> 00:46:52.069 WLWV School Board: like how many people said that it might be like 305 00:46:52.550 --> 00:46:54.847 WLWV School Board: like we could learn more ease. 306 00:46:55.846 --> 00:47:01.290 WLWV School Board: The teachers can actually have more time to give to 307 00:47:01.480 --> 00:47:05.270 WLWV School Board: for each of us to have more time. 308 00:47:05.860 --> 00:47:08.440 WLWV School Board: So don't need. 309 00:47:08.630 --> 00:47:26.625 WLWV School Board: And also, we really like to go to Bolton like we like the community meetings, the celebrations, the 310 00:47:28.120 --> 00:47:38.430 WLWV School Board: the class, like the time we have with our classes, and also. 311 00:47:41.510 --> 00:47:50.269 WLWV School Board: We also also thank you for listening to me. Bye. 312 00:47:50.600 --> 00:47:51.460 WLWV School Board: See you later. 313 00:47:57.080 --> 00:47:58.669 WLWV School Board: Have a good time at Omsi. 314 00:47:58.880 --> 00:47:59.550 WLWV School Board: Okay. 315 00:48:03.420 --> 00:48:05.210 WLWV School Board: Is there any other? 316 00:48:08.480 --> 00:48:10.120 WLWV School Board: I'll go back. Yeah, I'll go back. 317 00:48:13.020 --> 00:48:14.129 WLWV School Board: Think that's it. 318 00:48:15.070 --> 00:48:19.050 WLWV School Board: Some Romsey's all right, John Mccabe. 319 00:48:40.722 --> 00:48:47.240 WLWV School Board: John Mccabe Weston, Oregon. Not sure if all you received my email emailed out late today. 320 00:48:47.811 --> 00:48:50.280 WLWV School Board: Our problem is not small schools. 321 00:48:50.810 --> 00:48:52.610 WLWV School Board: Our problem is budget. I'll agree. 322 00:48:53.010 --> 00:48:57.259 WLWV School Board: And you have the high school like 3.8% 323 00:48:58.070 --> 00:49:00.380 WLWV School Board: of our wages that we pay 324 00:49:00.760 --> 00:49:03.139 WLWV School Board: is for the athletic department. Only 325 00:49:04.030 --> 00:49:14.389 WLWV School Board: we pay pay over 3.3 million dollars. A lot of other school districts don't even do that. So it's a good thing we win state championships because we pay good money to get them. 326 00:49:14.990 --> 00:49:18.730 WLWV School Board: So if we're going to save money, we have to start cutting. 327 00:49:18.850 --> 00:49:22.849 WLWV School Board: The other part was wages for the high schools 328 00:49:23.240 --> 00:49:26.060 WLWV School Board: increased by 5 million last year. 329 00:49:26.890 --> 00:49:30.990 WLWV School Board: Not all of it, but a lot of it was Riverside. 330 00:49:31.410 --> 00:49:37.500 WLWV School Board: and it has very few students. It is a small school, the smallest small school. 331 00:49:37.750 --> 00:49:39.500 WLWV School Board: It should be closed 332 00:49:39.970 --> 00:49:47.490 WLWV School Board: now. They say there might be other options. But the other part of it is is, if you go away from flow analytics. 333 00:49:47.590 --> 00:49:51.409 WLWV School Board: and look at the numbers that I sent to you of actual enrollments. 334 00:49:51.610 --> 00:49:55.399 WLWV School Board: The high school enrollments next year will drop by a hundred students. 335 00:49:56.040 --> 00:50:03.810 WLWV School Board: Anybody that's in the district can go back to the original high school and riverside 336 00:50:04.220 --> 00:50:16.469 WLWV School Board: when the demand ever comes, and it may never come in the future because of the ruling that was made by Lcdc. On Friday. This area of West Lynn might not develop for 20 to 30 years yet. 337 00:50:16.980 --> 00:50:30.069 WLWV School Board: Athe Creek at Dollar Street was built. That it was going to happen today. It's not happening for 20 to 30 years we have to start looking at only building what we need not for a future that might not happen. 338 00:50:30.180 --> 00:50:35.089 WLWV School Board: or if it does happen you might not. We won't have enough money if there's a massive earthquake. 339 00:50:35.230 --> 00:50:37.109 WLWV School Board: because we're out of jail bond funds. 340 00:50:37.630 --> 00:50:39.099 WLWV School Board: Nobody's looking at this. 341 00:50:39.470 --> 00:50:40.970 WLWV School Board: Okay, I'm looking at it. 342 00:50:41.917 --> 00:50:43.152 WLWV School Board: And then 343 00:50:44.020 --> 00:50:52.310 WLWV School Board: The other part that some people have brought up is money was borrowed in 2020 344 00:50:52.430 --> 00:50:53.770 WLWV School Board: from the land bank. 345 00:50:55.570 --> 00:50:57.599 WLWV School Board: It was defaulted on last year. 346 00:50:58.090 --> 00:51:02.719 WLWV School Board: There was only supposed to be accelerated payments not delayed payments. 347 00:51:03.140 --> 00:51:11.019 WLWV School Board: Technically, you guys could have your funds frozen by Oregon. Problem of education. Because it's unclear. Why, you're not following your own resolutions. 348 00:51:11.370 --> 00:51:16.680 WLWV School Board: Nobody on there voted for the original resolution, but it needs to be addressed. 349 00:51:16.800 --> 00:51:29.429 WLWV School Board: and therefore, when you go out and say, Sell, app and Lander, we're just going to use it for schools. No, you can't. You have to come up with how you're going to pay it back and based on current track record. There is no intention. 350 00:51:30.300 --> 00:51:32.540 WLWV School Board: There is another part of the budget 351 00:51:33.260 --> 00:51:37.440 WLWV School Board: that is hard to describe, because I have no idea who the students are. 352 00:51:37.730 --> 00:51:42.100 WLWV School Board: But we spend more in this area than we do on all the middle school teachers. 353 00:51:42.230 --> 00:51:44.999 WLWV School Board: And it's my knowledge is for very few students. 354 00:51:45.300 --> 00:51:46.609 WLWV School Board: It needs to be looked at. 355 00:51:51.880 --> 00:51:53.050 WLWV School Board: Greg Novak. 356 00:52:04.140 --> 00:52:05.100 WLWV School Board: Good evening 357 00:52:05.710 --> 00:52:20.710 WLWV School Board: first.st I'm here primarily to talk about the OP. And Lander field, but I do want to say the comments that came in around the the small school closure being evaluated. I've been here 21 years. 358 00:52:20.970 --> 00:52:30.399 WLWV School Board: Both of my kids were born and raised in this community, started at Merrillhurst. Early childhood went to Trillium, went to Rosemont Middle School, and then Westland High School. 359 00:52:30.580 --> 00:52:45.559 WLWV School Board: and I can say the only 2 times my kids were upset and distraught over their school experience was when they had a teacher die from cancer and they had a teacher leave the school they were going to, and some of the people here talking about their communities in the schools. 360 00:52:45.760 --> 00:53:13.749 WLWV School Board: I get it. I mean, if our kids are engaged, and they're happy, and they're comfortable. They're going to thrive in every sense of the word. And if I understand things correctly, we're talking about a savings of, roughly a million and a half dollars. And I presume there's from what I've heard, maybe a thousand kids at those 3 schools. That's $1,500 a kid. So we really should be asking ourselves, what's the price for the continuity these communities and the kids experience versus the cost savings potential? If that if that number is real, right. 361 00:53:14.370 --> 00:53:38.069 WLWV School Board: as I said, I'm here to talk about Oppenlander. I've lived right in the general area for 21 years. The last 7 years my property actually shares a property line with the field. So I literally have direct line of sight onto that field. Second, when my kids were younger. I coached my son's soccer team, and as a coach had to find practice facilities. This was 7, 8, 9 years ago, I can tell you. At that time 362 00:53:38.070 --> 00:53:48.839 WLWV School Board: one of the hardest things to do was to get practice times and fields to have their practices on, and I often had. You know, it was a lottery, and we'd sometimes practice into the dark, because that's the only alternative we had. 363 00:53:48.980 --> 00:54:13.660 WLWV School Board: I can also say that when I moved here the 4 way. Intersection at Salamo and Rosemont was A was a stop sign, and there wasn't development on any corner except Rosemont Middle School within a slingshot. And now it's all homes which is part of the world. We got progress. But if we're going to continue to build in Rosemont or in Westland, we're going to continue to mandate 10,000 square foot lots. We've got to hold on to some place for people to go and play. 364 00:54:13.660 --> 00:54:35.770 WLWV School Board: because I can tell you that every morning I watch a string of people walk out, their dogs, their kids, their Frisbees. They stream onto that park because that is the land they have to go recreate on. And all summer long I listen to families cheering for their kids in the soccer games and the baseball games. That is a center of activity. That is a place where the citizens of Westland go to relax and get out and stretch their legs. 365 00:54:35.770 --> 00:55:00.329 WLWV School Board: We have to hold on to that, you know, when I 1st moved here, my wife and I were looking at properties all over the Portland metro area all the way out West, and when we told them we wanted. We wanted great schools. We wanted moderate traffic. We wanted a safe environment for our kids and ourselves. The realtor we had, who had been a realtor for 30 years and was a Portland native, said without hesitation, well, we're in the wrong place. We were out in like parrot mountain stuff. She says. You want to be in West Leonard Lake, Oswego. 366 00:55:01.280 --> 00:55:08.679 WLWV School Board: and we've been very happy here. But I will say I live on Rosemont. The traffic has more than doubled. In the 8 years I've lived on that road 367 00:55:08.840 --> 00:55:24.110 WLWV School Board: we need to think about the quality of life and balancing the budget structurally through property taxes, not by one time fixes. This is an affluent community. They do support the schools, we support bond issues. We support our tax base. That's the way to go. Thank you. I appreciate the time. 368 00:55:26.230 --> 00:55:28.700 WLWV School Board: Please don't clap, please don't clap. 369 00:55:29.080 --> 00:55:31.540 WLWV School Board: or I'll shut down public comment. I'm not joking. 370 00:55:35.060 --> 00:55:36.110 WLWV School Board: Thank you. 371 00:55:40.870 --> 00:55:42.040 WLWV School Board: Christy Lance. 372 00:55:59.760 --> 00:56:05.760 WLWV School Board: Good evening, and thank you all for the opportunity to speak tonight. I really do appreciate it. 373 00:56:06.290 --> 00:56:10.279 WLWV School Board: As we approach this critical vote. I want to take a moment to reflect. 374 00:56:10.450 --> 00:56:15.299 WLWV School Board: not on where we are, but where we could have been and where we can still go. 375 00:56:15.940 --> 00:56:20.189 WLWV School Board: Imagine a process that didn't force us into a corner with false choices. 376 00:56:20.690 --> 00:56:26.729 WLWV School Board: but one that empowered us to work together as a community to address challenges with creativity and collaboration. 377 00:56:26.890 --> 00:56:29.880 WLWV School Board: Imagine if, instead of fear. We led with courage. 378 00:56:30.300 --> 00:56:39.290 WLWV School Board: seeing this moment, not as a crisis to be survived, but as an opportunity to build something stronger for our students and for the future of this district. 379 00:56:39.870 --> 00:56:46.500 WLWV School Board: The district has presented us with a false dichotomy that we must choose between cutting teachers and closing schools. 380 00:56:46.670 --> 00:56:56.140 WLWV School Board: But I know this isn't true. There are so many creative solutions. If we are willing to think outside of the box, roll up our sleeves and put students first.st 381 00:56:56.340 --> 00:56:59.950 WLWV School Board: Closing schools isn't an act of practical problem solving. 382 00:57:00.180 --> 00:57:06.419 WLWV School Board: It's a retreat, and it's 1 that will leave lasting scars on our community for years to come. 383 00:57:06.830 --> 00:57:11.669 WLWV School Board: I came across a quote during my research in a past long-range, planning document. 384 00:57:11.790 --> 00:57:14.430 WLWV School Board: and it feels incredibly relevant tonight. 385 00:57:15.410 --> 00:57:25.029 WLWV School Board: Never make a permanent decision based on a temporary storm, no matter how raging the billows are today. Remind yourself this, too, shall pass 386 00:57:25.560 --> 00:57:33.109 WLWV School Board: the challenges that we face today, whether it's declining enrollment budget pressures or a temporary storm of uncertainty 387 00:57:33.580 --> 00:57:34.889 WLWV School Board: will pass. 388 00:57:35.370 --> 00:57:38.160 WLWV School Board: But the decisions you make tonight will leave a legacy. 389 00:57:38.300 --> 00:57:41.970 WLWV School Board: Will it be one of trust, vision, and bold leadership. 390 00:57:42.120 --> 00:57:46.220 WLWV School Board: or will be? Will it be one of fear and short-term thinking? 391 00:57:47.180 --> 00:57:50.969 WLWV School Board: This is not about any one school or any one moment. 392 00:57:51.190 --> 00:58:03.309 WLWV School Board: It's about what this district can be with leadership that inspires and builds trust leadership that sees beyond the numbers and remembers that the heart of this district is its students, its teachers, and its communities. 393 00:58:04.000 --> 00:58:06.830 WLWV School Board: I urge you tonight to not let fear be your guide. 394 00:58:06.940 --> 00:58:14.189 WLWV School Board: Take the harder path, the one that demands collaboration, creativity, and courage. 395 00:58:14.530 --> 00:58:18.060 WLWV School Board: and show our students that even in difficult times 396 00:58:18.350 --> 00:58:23.730 WLWV School Board: we rise to the occasion. We innovate and we persevere. 397 00:58:24.230 --> 00:58:26.930 WLWV School Board: That's the story they deserve to be a part of. 398 00:58:27.170 --> 00:58:29.540 WLWV School Board: And that's the leadership that they need to see. 399 00:58:29.740 --> 00:58:30.630 WLWV School Board: Thank you. 400 00:58:41.080 --> 00:58:43.970 WLWV School Board: Mckenzie. Looks like it's Basio! 401 00:59:04.840 --> 00:59:06.799 WLWV School Board: Hi! Whoop! 402 00:59:07.240 --> 00:59:30.130 WLWV School Board: So the 1st time I heard about Bolton closing was when I was in my neighborhood. And there were these little girls selling something like in the park on the sidewalk. And they had this little sign. I couldn't even read it. I came up and it said, Save Bolton, and I said, What are you saving money for? What are you, you know, going to use the money for, and they were like. 403 00:59:30.280 --> 00:59:34.009 WLWV School Board: you know, Duh, to save Bolton. So. 404 00:59:34.260 --> 00:59:45.220 WLWV School Board: And you know, obviously that was heartbreaking to me because I went to Bolton a long time ago when I was a kid. And I just always felt like it was a really 405 00:59:45.920 --> 00:59:49.400 WLWV School Board: beautiful community and kind of a really. 406 00:59:49.790 --> 00:59:56.080 WLWV School Board: I don't know, like magical place for all the kids that were there like it just feels like 407 00:59:57.150 --> 01:00:01.689 WLWV School Board: kind of like home, you know, like, when you walk into that building it's like. 408 01:00:02.330 --> 01:00:06.389 WLWV School Board: I don't know. It just kind of does something. It brings back those memories of like. 409 01:00:07.107 --> 01:00:19.579 WLWV School Board: Sorry, like my teacher, Kelly Jones, who worked there for a long time. And I used to call her Jones like I would just yell at her. Hey, Jones, I have a question 410 01:00:19.954 --> 01:00:36.425 WLWV School Board: anyway. And like the principal holly, holly, Ruben Holly, Rubin, and she like knew all the students names, because it was like, you know such a small school that you just kind of know everybody. And it was just a community 411 01:00:37.100 --> 01:00:52.489 WLWV School Board: and I think it's important for kids to have that environment where they feel like they're part of a community. I guess. So I think we should say, Bolton, because it matters to the teachers, and it matters a lot to the kids, and it matters to me. 412 01:00:53.170 --> 01:00:54.170 WLWV School Board: Thank you. 413 01:01:06.670 --> 01:01:08.860 WLWV School Board: I'm not even gonna try to say this last name. 414 01:01:09.240 --> 01:01:14.780 WLWV School Board: So I'm just going to say, Taylor, I knew that was me. 415 01:01:16.560 --> 01:01:23.920 WLWV School Board: Hi, there! I'm sorry I'm fighting some kind of illness to excuse the really sexy voice. 416 01:01:25.629 --> 01:01:31.560 WLWV School Board: I'm Taylor Martin, in the spirit of keeping decorum. 417 01:01:32.180 --> 01:01:34.820 WLWV School Board: I ask that everyone behind me 418 01:01:34.940 --> 01:01:39.750 WLWV School Board: calmly raise your hand if you think the small schools should be left open 419 01:01:42.430 --> 01:01:47.270 WLWV School Board: and want to do that as a visual for you guys, because I think 420 01:01:47.550 --> 01:01:56.580 WLWV School Board: all those hands being raised means that we all think that the Board can work with administration to creatively solve 421 01:01:56.740 --> 01:02:00.630 WLWV School Board: the budget issues in a way that does not involve closing schools. 422 01:02:00.840 --> 01:02:02.639 WLWV School Board: It means we have faith in you. 423 01:02:05.740 --> 01:02:06.840 WLWV School Board: Will you pause that? 424 01:02:09.160 --> 01:02:10.519 WLWV School Board: Did you need a minute. 425 01:02:13.860 --> 01:02:15.010 WLWV School Board: Okay? 426 01:02:17.100 --> 01:02:26.809 WLWV School Board: so all the hands. I don't know if if we need to turn house lights on so you can see. But I think you guys can see all these hands being raised? It's so important. Basically, every person who's raised their hand here tonight. 427 01:02:27.316 --> 01:02:48.970 WLWV School Board: We want you to represent what we want essentially, and we definitely believe that there are other solutions outside the 3 that were proposed. I don't know if everyone here remembers. But there were 3 solutions proposed at. Was it last meeting or meeting before that one was close? All the schools? 428 01:02:49.330 --> 01:02:54.840 WLWV School Board: Okay? No, obviously, that doesn't work close 2 schools or close one school. 429 01:02:55.610 --> 01:03:08.420 WLWV School Board: Why were there only 3 options? We we really can't wrap our head around. Why, only 3. And we hope as a board that you guys can sit down and go wait. What's beyond those 3 options? 430 01:03:08.720 --> 01:03:10.369 WLWV School Board: What else can we do? 431 01:03:11.010 --> 01:03:20.619 WLWV School Board: We trust that you can do this, and we appreciate you seeing everyone here's hand being raised in support of keeping all of the schools open. Thank you so much. 432 01:03:27.990 --> 01:03:30.260 WLWV School Board: We're we're at the hour, mark 433 01:03:31.423 --> 01:03:35.940 WLWV School Board: and we've only got 2 more 434 01:03:36.230 --> 01:03:42.380 WLWV School Board: speakers left. So is the board. Okay? With hearing out the last 2 speakers? 435 01:03:49.760 --> 01:03:50.790 WLWV School Board: That's the question. 436 01:03:51.390 --> 01:04:04.330 WLWV School Board: I think technically, we're, I think what our Board secretary was asking is if we need to extend time. But I think we don't think we need to formally do that, because we have so few. Right? Right? Is that what you were asking? Right? There's only 2 left. So yeah. 437 01:04:04.640 --> 01:04:07.900 WLWV School Board: so you guys are all good with hearing out the last 2 I would assume. 438 01:04:08.340 --> 01:04:16.590 WLWV School Board: Good, good Megan, can I get a good? Oh, yes, okay, thanks, all right. Thank you. So we have 439 01:04:16.900 --> 01:04:17.830 WLWV School Board: zareth. 440 01:04:18.880 --> 01:04:20.440 WLWV School Board: Did I say that right, Zarath. 441 01:04:22.030 --> 01:04:22.700 WLWV School Board: I see. 442 01:04:25.876 --> 01:04:28.380 WLWV School Board: How about this? Z. 443 01:04:29.120 --> 01:04:29.960 WLWV School Board: All right. 444 01:04:34.660 --> 01:04:40.889 WLWV School Board: Dr. Z. Welcome. Thank you. Thank you for having me just real quickly. I want to say most importantly to me is that 445 01:04:41.120 --> 01:04:46.605 WLWV School Board: over the past week I got to meet with many of you in person. I've been very impressed. 446 01:04:47.020 --> 01:04:53.679 WLWV School Board: I think I truly believe that this comes from people who are dedicated and want to make the right decision for our community. 447 01:04:54.420 --> 01:04:59.449 WLWV School Board: I don't know how the decision will go. I'm not here to try to influence it in one direction or another, but 448 01:04:59.580 --> 01:05:03.540 WLWV School Board: the job of this board is hard, and it has a lot of constraints. 449 01:05:03.670 --> 01:05:06.719 WLWV School Board: and I appreciate all of you for all the time you put in. 450 01:05:06.980 --> 01:05:08.910 WLWV School Board: I think sometimes that gets lost. 451 01:05:09.210 --> 01:05:15.480 WLWV School Board: I do feel there were some flaws in the process that we should debrief as community and district 452 01:05:15.680 --> 01:05:24.319 WLWV School Board: after tonight, and I have felt the entire time. I don't know what the community can do that might meaningfully support the district. 453 01:05:24.590 --> 01:05:29.100 WLWV School Board: But I would like to learn more about that, and see if there's a way that we can really do that and feel like. 454 01:05:29.210 --> 01:05:33.550 WLWV School Board: We're true partners in this, and I'm not saying that we're not. But you can see there's 455 01:05:33.800 --> 01:05:36.229 WLWV School Board: that's not unanimous in that feeling. 456 01:05:37.360 --> 01:05:41.229 WLWV School Board: So most importantly, thank you all for the time you put into this. 457 01:05:41.790 --> 01:05:45.669 WLWV School Board: Obviously, I want it to go one way, but a lot of people want it to go one way. So 458 01:05:45.870 --> 01:05:46.800 WLWV School Board: thanks again. 459 01:05:51.350 --> 01:05:54.850 WLWV School Board: Last, but not least, Shoba Eason. 460 01:06:08.470 --> 01:06:14.669 WLWV School Board: I will keep a eye on the clock. I am short. Gonna move it towards me. Is that long enough. 461 01:06:14.930 --> 01:06:16.110 WLWV School Board: Okay, perfect. 462 01:06:16.240 --> 01:06:17.210 WLWV School Board: So 463 01:06:17.840 --> 01:06:27.899 WLWV School Board: parents make decisions based upon the information available. The robustness of the curriculum, I'll be honest, has diminished consistently over the past 4 years 464 01:06:28.420 --> 01:06:31.890 WLWV School Board: as a Catholic, I am seriously considering 465 01:06:32.180 --> 01:06:42.440 WLWV School Board: moving my 3rd grader, who has been assessed to be gifted and talented, and my 3 year old, who's going to preschool to the Catholic education system. 466 01:06:42.870 --> 01:06:48.339 WLWV School Board: That is not a decision that I take lightly. We moved here from Texas. 467 01:06:48.550 --> 01:06:52.209 WLWV School Board: I intentionally picked Westland for the education. 468 01:06:53.030 --> 01:07:01.070 WLWV School Board: the saving grace for us, and what we have stayed is we've seen a loss of languages. We've seen the loss of our librarian. 469 01:07:01.220 --> 01:07:29.939 WLWV School Board: you know. It's something my son, truly loved, was holding the librarian's hand, and he would come home and tell me about this experience. So for me, education is important, but creating a safe environment that kids can grow and feel comfortable. So, despite the budget cuts, taking away core curriculum, such as the languages, arts, librarian, you know, the saving grace has been the small school atmosphere has worked because he is gifted and talented, which means that 470 01:07:30.540 --> 01:07:37.370 WLWV School Board: the teachers have to work harder to create an individualized plan, since there isn't a separate curriculum for them. 471 01:07:37.780 --> 01:07:56.630 WLWV School Board: and that's 1 of the advantages of the small school that it's been able to weather. The storm of the budget cuts, but still provide a quality education for our children. My concern comes down to the population increases when we close the school. Naturally, other schools have to absorb it. And 472 01:07:56.640 --> 01:08:09.969 WLWV School Board: the great teachers that we have have over 20 years of experience, I get worried about attrition with the closure of schools, impacting, creating stress and workloads for those teachers. How are they going to be able to support 473 01:08:10.070 --> 01:08:18.800 WLWV School Board: kids of varying learning needs? Right? Because now you're going to increase their senses. So it's something that I ask you to consider is. 474 01:08:19.310 --> 01:08:29.370 WLWV School Board: although I respect the budget cuts, and I manage a business, and I understand how it is, I manage a billion dollar business. I I understand it right? I get that. It's tough. 475 01:08:29.490 --> 01:08:42.440 WLWV School Board: But there's also dire consequences to making those cuts. And what I think. There's a responsible way to approach this. And so I ask that when you consider your decision to think about the 476 01:08:42.859 --> 01:08:52.569 WLWV School Board: non-tangible effects that it could have on this on these kids for the long term. So I appreciate your time. Thank you. 477 01:08:58.100 --> 01:09:00.479 WLWV School Board: That concludes public comment. 478 01:09:03.529 --> 01:09:07.879 WLWV School Board: And now we'll move into board business, which 479 01:09:08.060 --> 01:09:11.496 WLWV School Board: is some time for us as a board to deliberate 480 01:09:13.069 --> 01:09:16.840 WLWV School Board: the topics before us. And so before we get into 481 01:09:17.220 --> 01:09:20.230 WLWV School Board: that, this will require board action, which is 482 01:09:20.510 --> 01:09:24.099 WLWV School Board: why everyone is sitting in this room, or most of the people are sitting in this room. 483 01:09:25.670 --> 01:09:28.270 WLWV School Board: Is to hear the decision that sits before us 484 01:09:28.660 --> 01:09:31.379 WLWV School Board: that will have an impact on 485 01:09:31.580 --> 01:09:34.340 WLWV School Board: our community regardless of the decision. 486 01:09:36.380 --> 01:09:44.640 WLWV School Board: it's a no win decision either way. Either. Schools are getting closed. Teachers are losing jobs, you know. It's unfortunate 487 01:09:44.859 --> 01:09:48.890 WLWV School Board: that those are the choices that we have been given 488 01:09:50.640 --> 01:09:52.010 WLWV School Board: and I guess, just as a 489 01:09:52.340 --> 01:09:58.250 WLWV School Board: as a community member myself here for more than 2 plus decades, you know. I hope, that 490 01:09:58.480 --> 01:10:04.949 WLWV School Board: our State makes a commitment to education at some point. It's it's getting ridiculous. So 491 01:10:06.420 --> 01:10:15.639 WLWV School Board: But the decision before us tonight is basically to address questions from 2 main groups, one group being 492 01:10:16.030 --> 01:10:20.249 WLWV School Board: a long range committee planning committee where 493 01:10:20.650 --> 01:10:24.850 WLWV School Board: the long range the long range plan was tasked with. 494 01:10:25.270 --> 01:10:31.989 WLWV School Board: and one of the questions that they came up with, Are we planning for all 16 schools at a capital bond summit 495 01:10:32.170 --> 01:10:42.140 WLWV School Board: and capital bond program, and with declining enrollment and budget challenges, does the Board still want us to go forward to the public with renovation, slash stewardship 496 01:10:42.270 --> 01:10:44.950 WLWV School Board: plans for all 16 schools. Right? 497 01:10:45.090 --> 01:10:47.799 WLWV School Board: So that's a question that they still are 498 01:10:48.240 --> 01:10:51.839 WLWV School Board: asking because of the decision that sits before us today 499 01:10:52.120 --> 01:10:55.680 WLWV School Board: with the potential of some schools possibly being closed 500 01:10:55.970 --> 01:10:59.679 WLWV School Board: that disrupts the work that they were originally tasked to do 501 01:11:00.050 --> 01:11:05.163 WLWV School Board: before we knew we had a budget shortfall of 15 million. So. 502 01:11:05.780 --> 01:11:13.549 WLWV School Board: that is one decision before us and one group that has questions. The second is for the superintendent, the Cfo and the Budget Committee. 503 01:11:13.880 --> 01:11:20.100 WLWV School Board: and those questions stem around budget challenges. Given what we know now. 504 01:11:20.410 --> 01:11:24.959 WLWV School Board: which we didn't have these figures in July or August. 505 01:11:25.490 --> 01:11:32.639 WLWV School Board: The Governor's proposed budget only came out in December of 2024, which talked about pers rate increases 506 01:11:34.670 --> 01:11:38.089 WLWV School Board: which were issued in October of 2,024. 507 01:11:38.390 --> 01:11:45.479 WLWV School Board: And now we're looking at a 15 million dollars reduction for next school year, having all the options 508 01:11:45.830 --> 01:11:49.999 WLWV School Board: for mitigation, the extent of the reductions. 509 01:11:50.180 --> 01:11:54.049 WLWV School Board: We're gonna have to explore all of those. So they have questions around that. 510 01:11:54.200 --> 01:11:56.620 WLWV School Board: Which should we consider? And 511 01:11:56.730 --> 01:12:08.900 WLWV School Board: there's a few different things at the district level. We're looking at about 7.4 million in reductions at the school level 7.5 4 million in reduction. Those together total, the 15 million 512 01:12:11.010 --> 01:12:20.250 WLWV School Board: if consolidating a school meaning, get rid of a school that would equate to about 1.4 5 million, based on the figures that have been presented to us. 513 01:12:21.710 --> 01:12:23.050 WLWV School Board: And 514 01:12:26.940 --> 01:12:31.729 WLWV School Board: that that number, if a school were to be closed, would 515 01:12:31.890 --> 01:12:38.010 WLWV School Board: be a direct savings to the school level, not the district level, but to the school level portion of your budget which I mentioned. 516 01:12:38.160 --> 01:12:41.390 WLWV School Board: and we know from our current enrollment, and so far 517 01:12:41.690 --> 01:12:53.849 WLWV School Board: with future enrollment projections, that over the next 10 years we have space in 5 of our primary buildings in Westland to accommodate the children from about 6 schools, so 518 01:12:54.090 --> 01:12:58.619 WLWV School Board: if the Board wishes to consolidate or close a school 519 01:12:58.920 --> 01:13:04.830 WLWV School Board: with the savings of 14.5 million over 10 years. We have the capacity to do that. So 520 01:13:04.960 --> 01:13:06.829 WLWV School Board: those are some of the 521 01:13:07.010 --> 01:13:15.340 WLWV School Board: things before us for the superintendent, Cfo and Budget Committee. So those are things that we'll be addressing tonight in our discussion. 522 01:13:15.580 --> 01:13:20.249 WLWV School Board: And I'm going to turn it over to 523 01:13:21.170 --> 01:13:23.250 WLWV School Board: Dr. Ludworth. Do you have anything to add. 524 01:13:31.740 --> 01:13:33.787 WLWV School Board: 1st of all, I just wanted to. 525 01:13:34.270 --> 01:13:37.040 WLWV School Board: thank the community for being here or 526 01:13:37.270 --> 01:13:42.260 WLWV School Board: parents being here, and I think you know, over the last 527 01:13:42.550 --> 01:13:49.930 WLWV School Board: 5 months we've had a very engaged community that has shown up to forums that has 528 01:13:50.090 --> 01:14:00.240 WLWV School Board: delved into the research, looked at figures engaged with board members with district staff sent us emails, had conversations. 529 01:14:00.360 --> 01:14:07.170 WLWV School Board: and I just appreciate our community for caring about their schools for 530 01:14:07.380 --> 01:14:15.050 WLWV School Board: speaking so highly of their teachers, loving their communities. It's it's the way we want it. This is an incredible school district. 531 01:14:15.500 --> 01:14:22.930 WLWV School Board: It's why we came, those of us sitting here. It's why we stay, and we understand how heavy 532 01:14:23.120 --> 01:14:28.340 WLWV School Board: this has been in terms of conversation on the heart of our community. 533 01:14:28.530 --> 01:14:32.459 WLWV School Board: So I want to thank all those who came tonight, and we know there are many people watching. 534 01:14:32.990 --> 01:14:36.390 WLWV School Board: and others who are thinking about this important decision tonight 535 01:14:36.740 --> 01:14:57.990 WLWV School Board: want to thank the Board for engaging so deeply. You went home 2 weeks ago after presentation with a lot of information, and you've reached out with questions and clarifications. And our role tonight is to do the best that we can to continue to provide whatever guidance you need in terms of information or answer questions. 536 01:14:58.674 --> 01:15:06.740 WLWV School Board: You got a very thorough presentation, as thorough as we could give it. We were also very sensitive to 537 01:15:07.376 --> 01:15:16.130 WLWV School Board: just giving you information and not leaning in and being persuasive, but allowing you to make up your minds and your decision listening to the community. 538 01:15:16.440 --> 01:15:22.079 WLWV School Board: So with that I'll turn it back over to you. Chair Taylor and Vice Chair, Wyatt, and the board 539 01:15:22.470 --> 01:15:29.950 WLWV School Board: to begin your discussion, and we are here to answer any questions that we can thank you. 540 01:15:32.010 --> 01:15:38.710 WLWV School Board: During this deliberation. What I'm going to do is, I'm just going to start from the left, and I'll start with you. Director Shoemaker, with 541 01:15:40.410 --> 01:15:42.940 WLWV School Board: questions, concerns, words that you 542 01:15:43.050 --> 01:15:49.350 WLWV School Board: might want to open with and things for us to consider or questions for Pat, Dr. Ludwig. 543 01:15:49.810 --> 01:15:53.000 WLWV School Board: And this will be a time that we 544 01:15:53.900 --> 01:15:56.020 WLWV School Board: get to all. Have some input and reflect 545 01:15:56.290 --> 01:15:59.149 WLWV School Board: in front of you all, which is very rare. 546 01:15:59.320 --> 01:16:01.159 WLWV School Board: We don't get to do this, so 547 01:16:01.410 --> 01:16:27.789 WLWV School Board: I'm looking forward to what each director has to say. So, director, shoemaker floor is yours. Thanks. And I want to say also that I look forward to this discussion because, as people know, we don't get this opportunity until we do. And while we may occasionally run into each other and say, How's it going? Kind of thing we're pretty conscious of, even in twos, to not really talk about stuff much. 548 01:16:28.890 --> 01:16:32.849 WLWV School Board: A couple of things, I guess I'd say as we get started. 549 01:16:35.480 --> 01:16:41.309 WLWV School Board: I think I'm on record as saying that I I would not consolidate a school for money reasons only. 550 01:16:42.023 --> 01:16:51.210 WLWV School Board: I might feel differently if I was convinced the the amount of money was much, much bigger, and I'm not sneezing at 1.4 5. 551 01:16:51.330 --> 01:16:55.800 WLWV School Board: I have some questions about that number. 552 01:16:55.970 --> 01:16:58.060 WLWV School Board: It's relatively easy. 553 01:16:58.390 --> 01:17:16.870 WLWV School Board: I mean it. No offense, Pat, because I know, that's a lot of work. To line item areas that will not be costs going forward right? And that's how you can get to that number. What's more challenging, I think, according to the research, is anticipating the extra cost that would come for moving 554 01:17:17.720 --> 01:17:24.608 WLWV School Board: 300 kids to other schools costs that are frankly hard to predict. So 555 01:17:26.100 --> 01:17:35.705 WLWV School Board: so you know I I use that. I I think of that 1.4 5 as a number I'm not fully confident in, but at the same, I guess what I'm saying is 556 01:17:36.760 --> 01:17:43.959 WLWV School Board: As I say, that I would not do it for money alone. I would have to believe that this was also better 557 01:17:44.180 --> 01:18:11.120 WLWV School Board: in another sense, right? And so I appreciate the memo as part of the long range planning group as a liaison to that group. I appreciated the memo we got. I think I want to say August, when we were 1st asking the long planning committee 1st asked some questions about that. There was a memo that I think it's in the big, the big book to one of the later tabs that talks about some of the advantages to having schools that are 558 01:18:11.520 --> 01:18:13.689 WLWV School Board: more in the range of 400 559 01:18:14.532 --> 01:18:20.459 WLWV School Board: and I think what we've heard a lot from the community is is some question of whether or not 560 01:18:20.810 --> 01:18:32.130 WLWV School Board: that makes sense to them, whether schools of 400 or more, which is what we'd be doing if we were to consolidate even one school, we'd be moving the average school to 4, 561 01:18:32.330 --> 01:18:34.920 WLWV School Board: I think 4 30 is the number I've been hearing for. 562 01:18:36.070 --> 01:18:44.430 WLWV School Board: and so I'd have to feel like that really was, I think, better for our students. I 563 01:18:45.160 --> 01:18:50.490 WLWV School Board: I'm I spent a lot of time thinking about what it means to have a fiduciary duty lately. 564 01:18:51.650 --> 01:18:56.719 WLWV School Board: I I know there are people for whom this question had an immediate answer. 565 01:18:56.950 --> 01:19:01.200 WLWV School Board: and I did. I don't have the luxury. We don't have the luxury of immediately 566 01:19:01.320 --> 01:19:12.800 WLWV School Board: taking a question like this and say, Nope, here's the answer, because we have a duty to everyone in our school district, and what's best for all of our students. So that makes it, I think, for me much more challenging than 567 01:19:13.000 --> 01:19:16.299 WLWV School Board: listening to people who love their school so darn much. 568 01:19:17.206 --> 01:19:18.990 WLWV School Board: What else did I? Wanna 569 01:19:20.760 --> 01:19:22.850 WLWV School Board: I'll shut up here in a second. 570 01:19:23.110 --> 01:19:24.760 WLWV School Board: I think 571 01:19:28.110 --> 01:19:31.949 WLWV School Board: I am also someone who is thinking about 572 01:19:32.190 --> 01:19:37.040 WLWV School Board: the impact of boundary changes as as we talk about this work. 573 01:19:37.390 --> 01:19:39.729 WLWV School Board: The the average school on the 574 01:19:39.880 --> 01:19:48.300 WLWV School Board: I hate to say the Westland side, because it feels like I'm pitting 2 sides of the district against each other, which frankly, is no better than pitting schools against each other. 575 01:19:49.630 --> 01:19:58.400 WLWV School Board: but on the Westland side the average school would be in the 353, 60 range, I think, if we were to. 576 01:19:59.160 --> 01:20:04.740 WLWV School Board: if we were able to have a more even boundary, and 577 01:20:06.230 --> 01:20:13.030 WLWV School Board: the as soon as Frog Pond opens we're going to be at a pretty close to that number on the Wilsonville side. 578 01:20:14.360 --> 01:20:19.740 WLWV School Board: So I'm I'm wondering about that I, when we look at the the expected 579 01:20:19.860 --> 01:20:35.259 WLWV School Board: extra cost per student at Bolton, that that being a higher number, I think that only makes sense because they're not taking any advantage of, and of economies of scale. So I wonder if I wonder about boundary changes as a possibility? I'd love that for that to be part of our discussion. 580 01:20:35.760 --> 01:20:40.920 WLWV School Board: I'll just stop at that for now, and let directors sloop take over 581 01:20:49.680 --> 01:20:53.620 WLWV School Board: So with the process that we've had, I 582 01:20:54.420 --> 01:21:00.779 WLWV School Board: appreciate the information that we received in this binder. I felt it would have been helpful to have received it earlier. 583 01:21:03.090 --> 01:21:04.949 WLWV School Board: And one of the things that 584 01:21:06.810 --> 01:21:13.440 WLWV School Board: one i i would like to go with rather saying that we have a budget issue, or is the school too small? 585 01:21:13.800 --> 01:21:23.699 WLWV School Board: Approach it with. Let's come up with some solutions to address that, and includes closing a school, but not making that the focus. 586 01:21:25.250 --> 01:21:33.859 WLWV School Board: Bolton has 12% dwellings of the entire district in Westland part. 587 01:21:34.070 --> 01:21:38.080 WLWV School Board: and I really do want to consider 588 01:21:38.420 --> 01:21:42.340 WLWV School Board: redrawing the boundaries so that some more balanced enrollment. 589 01:21:43.920 --> 01:21:49.260 WLWV School Board: I believe that's also increases our equitable outcomes, and 590 01:21:49.920 --> 01:21:57.330 WLWV School Board: they're going to have to be redrawn if a school's closed, anyway, like sending sunset all the way down to Athey Creek, so I would 591 01:21:57.800 --> 01:22:01.300 WLWV School Board: like to have that as a possible solution that we can discuss? 592 01:22:08.010 --> 01:22:10.610 WLWV School Board: And can I ask a question that I asked earlier? 593 01:22:15.570 --> 01:22:20.180 WLWV School Board: As far as cost per student? If you remove this bed, the special education 594 01:22:20.720 --> 01:22:23.790 WLWV School Board: would what would that be per student? 595 01:22:24.290 --> 01:22:29.420 WLWV School Board: Because, if of the higher cost disabilities in some of the smaller schools 596 01:22:33.430 --> 01:22:38.039 WLWV School Board: now did is there a preparation, I mean, are you able to find any numbers? 597 01:22:39.460 --> 01:22:45.380 WLWV School Board: Do you want to? Do you want to address it now, or do you want to wait, and then you can address it, or do you want to just address it now? Because you have it? 598 01:22:46.220 --> 01:23:01.579 WLWV School Board: I want to be careful that. Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah. So if or they can write it down and address it collectively, we're writing down. We're writing down. If you feel you want to hear an opening remark from each board member and then engaging questions. We can do that. I think so, because 599 01:23:02.210 --> 01:23:04.720 WLWV School Board: that way you can just address them all at once. 600 01:23:04.870 --> 01:23:07.510 WLWV School Board: and we're not jumping around so. 601 01:23:08.400 --> 01:23:10.589 WLWV School Board: Director Vidal, are you done yet? 602 01:23:10.850 --> 01:23:18.469 WLWV School Board: If not, we'll come back to you, or I'll hold off. We can keep going. Are you sure I'm not ready to go from you? I just that's okay. Okay. 603 01:23:19.970 --> 01:23:23.080 WLWV School Board: Director Vito, thanks so much. 604 01:23:23.640 --> 01:23:32.424 WLWV School Board: I'm sure everyone can hear. Wait, am I? Yeah, okay, they can hear me without the mic. Today. I just wanted to 605 01:23:33.370 --> 01:23:37.999 WLWV School Board: start off by thanking the community for their engagement. 606 01:23:38.350 --> 01:23:50.309 WLWV School Board: You know, I'm a School Board member because I really want to represent the community. And so we've received, or I. I'm going to speak for myself right now, I've received over 607 01:23:50.630 --> 01:23:54.509 WLWV School Board: 100 emails related to this topic. 608 01:23:54.920 --> 01:23:59.850 WLWV School Board: And I am not exaggerating. When 98% of those emails. 609 01:24:00.692 --> 01:24:03.750 WLWV School Board: Did not want us to close small schools. 610 01:24:04.080 --> 01:24:13.700 WLWV School Board: I wanted to thank the 163 people who came out to Bolton and Stafford and Cedar oak 611 01:24:13.800 --> 01:24:15.540 WLWV School Board: when we had 612 01:24:16.430 --> 01:24:26.779 WLWV School Board: meetings there to hear your responses, and the 47 speakers that spoke to us. And that's separate from our traditional board meetings. 613 01:24:26.890 --> 01:24:48.930 WLWV School Board: And today, when we have this conversation with each other, which I'm so glad we're having. Like, I agree with Director Shoemaker. This is going to be, I think, very illuminating for everyone. I'm going to really focus on community process and alternative solutions. So yeah, that's all I have. 614 01:24:50.370 --> 01:24:51.530 WLWV School Board: Thank you. 615 01:24:52.040 --> 01:24:53.130 WLWV School Board: Quite sure. Why. 616 01:24:58.430 --> 01:25:02.263 WLWV School Board: I think what I've been reflecting on has been 617 01:25:03.610 --> 01:25:07.659 WLWV School Board: I think what has made this such a tough issue has been 618 01:25:07.870 --> 01:25:18.270 WLWV School Board: that it's really balancing facts versus feelings, and often with the choices that we are faced with as a board. 619 01:25:18.998 --> 01:25:34.569 WLWV School Board: And often, I think, in making choices related to public education, facts and feelings often are intermingled, because often what is best for educational outcomes. The facts and feelings are often the same. 620 01:25:34.820 --> 01:25:39.299 WLWV School Board: And as sometimes when we think about budget, and we think about 621 01:25:40.800 --> 01:25:45.999 WLWV School Board: concepts like community and sense of place and belonging. 622 01:25:46.715 --> 01:25:50.170 WLWV School Board: Sometimes those don't intermingle. And so 623 01:25:50.695 --> 01:26:14.009 WLWV School Board: the conversations that we've had a chance to have with all of you have been wonderful to hear about the sense of place and these feelings of community that have been created in many in all of our schools. And so I just want to thank everyone for being so open and sharing how meaningful schools are. 624 01:26:14.370 --> 01:26:28.160 WLWV School Board: It's also been really interesting because it's been a reminder that you can find facts for almost anything on the Internet and for every fact that we find about 625 01:26:28.260 --> 01:26:38.789 WLWV School Board: the impact of small schools. We can find facts about the impact of small class sizes. And so when we think about what it means to 626 01:26:38.910 --> 01:26:46.940 WLWV School Board: close a school, but then keep class sizes smaller. Those are both undeniable facts. And so 627 01:26:47.536 --> 01:26:55.440 WLWV School Board: looking at all of our data in front of us, those are all things that are worthy to weigh and consider. 628 01:26:55.550 --> 01:27:02.929 WLWV School Board: and same thing as it relates to. You know the power of having teachers that know every kid. 629 01:27:03.040 --> 01:27:05.920 WLWV School Board: And as that relates to. 630 01:27:06.170 --> 01:27:14.230 WLWV School Board: you know, if that's in a classroom where the class size is smaller versus in a school building where the school size is smaller. 631 01:27:14.560 --> 01:27:18.302 WLWV School Board: And so these are all of the things that I've been thinking about. 632 01:27:18.800 --> 01:27:29.529 WLWV School Board: I'm also really attuned to what we've been dealing with over the 3 years I've been on the board so far, and then the 2 years I was on the Budget Committee prior to that. And that's 633 01:27:29.810 --> 01:27:33.640 WLWV School Board: what I really perceive to be this chipping away 634 01:27:33.800 --> 01:27:38.170 WLWV School Board: at our classroom experience due to our funding scenario. 635 01:27:38.270 --> 01:27:46.370 WLWV School Board: We've taken away, I think, as one speaker said, we've taken away world languages taken away, our teacher librarians through our budget process. 636 01:27:46.740 --> 01:27:51.670 WLWV School Board: And I I hate the idea of continuing to chip away piece by piece. 637 01:27:52.980 --> 01:27:54.860 WLWV School Board: You know, every budget cycle. 638 01:27:55.120 --> 01:27:59.350 WLWV School Board: And so I think, as we as we think about the finances and that aspect of it. 639 01:27:59.848 --> 01:28:04.929 WLWV School Board: You know, each year, if we take away piece by piece, what does that mean 640 01:28:05.110 --> 01:28:07.880 WLWV School Board: for our educational outcomes for our kids. 641 01:28:08.120 --> 01:28:10.730 WLWV School Board: So that's the other piece I've been thinking about. 642 01:28:11.468 --> 01:28:17.181 WLWV School Board: And then, lastly, I think similar as Director Vidal as we think about process. 643 01:28:18.220 --> 01:28:41.889 WLWV School Board: there definitely have been pieces of this process as I've talked about with many of you. That maybe you know in hindsight we could have done differently. But I'm really worried about who we haven't heard from, as we think about solutions that affect every single student in our district, because we haven't heard from parents in every other primary school that would be affected 644 01:28:42.110 --> 01:28:55.320 WLWV School Board: with, you know, any solution that affects class sizes district wide, and we've heard very little from parents in Wilsonville and all of our budget solutions right now. 645 01:28:55.873 --> 01:29:06.030 WLWV School Board: Have a impact on Wilsonville class sizes. So have just been thinking about that. And tonight was the 1st we heard from a sunset 646 01:29:06.514 --> 01:29:18.060 WLWV School Board: Pto, about boundary changes there. So I'm just trying to be mindful, too, of the fact that what happens with our 3 small schools does reverberate across the district. So 647 01:29:18.170 --> 01:29:26.040 WLWV School Board: those are some of the things I'm thinking about and really looking forward to continuing these deliberations. So thank you. 648 01:29:26.650 --> 01:29:27.320 WLWV School Board: Alright. 649 01:29:27.980 --> 01:29:33.430 WLWV School Board: I don't have a comment. But water in a you good, all right. 650 01:29:33.900 --> 01:29:35.559 WLWV School Board: just to make sure. All right. 651 01:29:38.822 --> 01:29:44.170 WLWV School Board: I'm gonna make sure that we come back to. I know there's more questions on this side, and probably on this side, too. 652 01:29:44.570 --> 01:29:48.129 WLWV School Board: I don't have any comments or questions. So I'm going to go ahead and pass it down 653 01:29:48.250 --> 01:29:50.029 WLWV School Board: to you all to 654 01:29:50.150 --> 01:29:53.409 WLWV School Board: address some of the things that you've heard, and I'll give the floor over to you. 655 01:30:00.280 --> 01:30:04.334 WLWV School Board: Thank you. We've given a lot of information to you. 656 01:30:05.040 --> 01:30:09.170 WLWV School Board: you know about what it means to adjust boundaries, and you've got 657 01:30:09.420 --> 01:30:28.172 WLWV School Board: some scenarios that were sent to you if there was that sense. So I'll I'll just pause on that one to see if you want to come back to having that as a discussion question whether it's connected to finances or not, we can kind of move in that direction, but just a couple quick ones maybe to address 658 01:30:28.670 --> 01:30:34.910 WLWV School Board: We know in our presentation. It was the 1st time, I think, that we formally 659 01:30:35.790 --> 01:30:44.353 WLWV School Board: began to outline. What would it mean in terms of anything to middle school if there was a consolidation, and that came up tonight, 660 01:30:44.970 --> 01:30:47.670 WLWV School Board: and Director Sloop mentioned it 661 01:30:48.070 --> 01:30:55.939 WLWV School Board: right now. We have 3 primary schools in Westland, going to one middle school and 3 to another, and as we 662 01:30:56.120 --> 01:31:01.599 WLWV School Board: presented scenarios to you in the spirit of you, kind of looking at what would happen. 663 01:31:02.140 --> 01:31:06.890 WLWV School Board: If there was a consolidation of one school, it it would be a 3 and a 2, 664 01:31:07.110 --> 01:31:14.150 WLWV School Board: and it just, you know, throws off that evenness that we kind of have right now in terms of 3 schools to each middle school. 665 01:31:14.490 --> 01:31:19.900 WLWV School Board: And so in just some early examinations of that. 666 01:31:20.040 --> 01:31:28.790 WLWV School Board: there's this sense of if there's going to be 3 and 2, which school right now has more capacity, and that was, that's Athey Creek, and we know that 667 01:31:28.890 --> 01:31:36.560 WLWV School Board: as we bring enrollment down at Rosemont, and the shifting then over to Athey Creek, and that led to 668 01:31:36.740 --> 01:31:42.110 WLWV School Board: sunset, being that school that could move in either of those scenarios 669 01:31:42.260 --> 01:31:45.760 WLWV School Board: to primary students going to Athe Creek for middle school. 670 01:31:46.720 --> 01:31:56.920 WLWV School Board: even after we presented that, we talked more about it as a group, and said, You know, we have at times in our district. Given communities a choice. 671 01:31:57.450 --> 01:32:12.689 WLWV School Board: and perhaps that was the better solution. To maybe present to the board would have been sunset would be one of those schools that could choose between Rosemont and Athe. So then you would actually have 2 and a half, 2 and a half, so to speak. 672 01:32:12.890 --> 01:32:31.199 WLWV School Board: because certainly there is that walking distance part of sunset to Rosemont. Who would? The families would probably apply for a transfer anyway, and they would get it, and they would. Their children would just continue to walk to Rosemont, and then there is some parts of sunset that are a little further away with busing 673 01:32:31.450 --> 01:32:38.310 WLWV School Board: that maybe would find themselves interested in Athey Creek as they kind of 674 01:32:38.887 --> 01:32:42.760 WLWV School Board: acclimate more into maybe that part of the the neighborhood. 675 01:32:43.420 --> 01:32:49.410 WLWV School Board: So just to let you know. That's not firm. But it was something that we felt we had to 676 01:32:49.840 --> 01:32:58.349 WLWV School Board: put in front of you as you began to think about. There's primary. But have we thought about the impact on middle school? And it does change that configuration. 677 01:32:58.790 --> 01:33:08.949 WLWV School Board: So it's not permanent or set. What would happen with sunset? And even as we talked we said, we can imagine many families applying for a transfer to stay at Rosemont. 678 01:33:09.090 --> 01:33:16.589 WLWV School Board: and we would, you know, very likely, grant it, anyway. So it almost would become a school that would have a choice 679 01:33:16.730 --> 01:33:19.719 WLWV School Board: between which middle school. So I just wanted to address that 680 01:33:20.982 --> 01:33:27.890 WLWV School Board: there was a question, then from director sloop, also about special education students. 681 01:33:29.270 --> 01:33:46.319 WLWV School Board: and that's not always a fixed cohort. 5th graders leave kindergartners come in new. We're always evaluating to see who might qualify for special education services. And then there are different kinds of special education services. So it's very hard to put 682 01:33:46.830 --> 01:33:48.440 WLWV School Board: a dollar figure 683 01:33:48.760 --> 01:33:56.160 WLWV School Board: on on that cost. There is a weighted component, of course, that we get from the State regardless of the type of 684 01:33:57.650 --> 01:33:59.850 WLWV School Board: special education identification. 685 01:34:00.140 --> 01:34:05.720 WLWV School Board: So that's already factored in the waiting of of students, but in terms of 686 01:34:06.050 --> 01:34:14.220 WLWV School Board: type of disability would be very hard to kind of look at who's current? Who would be next year. But I can 687 01:34:14.390 --> 01:34:18.739 WLWV School Board: turn it over to Dr. Pryor to maybe address a little bit more. 688 01:34:20.730 --> 01:34:24.636 WLWV School Board: Yeah, one way we might think about that is 689 01:34:25.600 --> 01:34:32.900 WLWV School Board: If you can refer to page 34 of the summary that we provided a couple weeks ago. 690 01:34:32.950 --> 01:34:56.299 WLWV School Board: as Dr. Ludd was was saying, due to shifting school populations and a pretty wide variance in the cost of individual staff members depending upon when they were hired and their qualifications. It's hard to provide a real time, you know, cost per student. But one way we could look at it is looking at how we staff each school, and comparing that to 691 01:34:56.300 --> 01:35:03.270 WLWV School Board: the number of students into a school. And so this table, you know there, there are some things that are fixed, you know. For example. 692 01:35:03.270 --> 01:35:26.860 WLWV School Board: historically, we've had the same fte for a teacher librarian at every school, regardless of school size. They all have a full time principal. They've all historically had a full time instructional coordinator, you know, until last year, when we made a different decision for one of our schools. But this chart also shows some of the variable staffing. For example, the number of teachers based on the number of students who attend there. 693 01:35:26.860 --> 01:35:50.110 WLWV School Board: the number of learning specialists based on the number of students who have ieps and the level of care that those students need that's studied carefully every summer. So what this table tries to do is show you a combination of the fixed staffing and the variable staffing for each school which does change from year to year. So this is just an annual table. 694 01:35:50.220 --> 01:36:13.629 WLWV School Board: and it compiles a ratio of all the staff to students, and so you could in your head pick a number of what does it cost to pay an average staff member and multiply, you know, by the staff, and divide by the number of students. But the ratio of students to staff would be another way of getting at the same thing. So that might be one way, director sloop of thinking about that 695 01:36:13.780 --> 01:36:15.410 WLWV School Board: that question that you raised. 696 01:36:27.420 --> 01:36:39.569 WLWV School Board: So I think that addressed some of the tangential questions. And then I think what several of you brought up is interest in looking at 697 01:36:39.670 --> 01:36:41.900 WLWV School Board: redrawing of boundaries. So 698 01:36:42.100 --> 01:36:52.260 WLWV School Board: I think we'll just turn it back to if you want to have a discussion about that amongst yourselves, and then let us know if there's any information that you need from us for that discussion. Yep, no worries. 699 01:36:52.620 --> 01:36:55.650 WLWV School Board: So I'm going to come down to the left and start with you, Director Shoemaker. 700 01:36:56.360 --> 01:36:58.809 WLWV School Board: Any questions about that concerns? 701 01:37:02.960 --> 01:37:05.880 WLWV School Board: I don't know that I have questions and concerns. I 702 01:37:06.670 --> 01:37:11.540 WLWV School Board: I I guess I want to know more about what it would look like if we tried to boundary 703 01:37:11.790 --> 01:37:15.089 WLWV School Board: so that we were closer to 3 50 per school. 704 01:37:19.030 --> 01:37:25.360 WLWV School Board: Yeah. So we oh, did you need that for me or to each other? First? st 705 01:37:29.140 --> 01:37:39.299 WLWV School Board: Okay, so we were able to send each of you a table that showed, you know, mathematically we could certainly 706 01:37:39.490 --> 01:37:40.996 WLWV School Board: move children 707 01:37:42.470 --> 01:37:53.459 WLWV School Board: And to get something around 3, 50 to 3, 60 at each school, and that would involve, you know, moving some children from Sunset to Bolton. 708 01:37:54.110 --> 01:37:57.580 WLWV School Board: some children from Trillium Creek to Cedar Oak Park. 709 01:37:57.810 --> 01:38:01.290 WLWV School Board: another large group of children from Trillium Creek to Bolton. 710 01:38:01.690 --> 01:38:04.980 WLWV School Board: and then some children from Willamette to Stafford, 711 01:38:06.330 --> 01:38:19.059 WLWV School Board: So like 38 children from Willamette to Stafford, 39 children from Sunset to Bolton, 20 children from Trillium Creek to Cedar Oak Park, and 110 children from Trillium Creek to Bolton. 712 01:38:20.170 --> 01:38:28.399 WLWV School Board: So you know, if we provided that type of a plan and said, it's really important to our board that we have more even 713 01:38:29.760 --> 01:38:37.299 WLWV School Board: schools. And this is where the children reside, and this is how they are present as primary children right now, or at least for the next 714 01:38:37.530 --> 01:38:41.630 WLWV School Board: 5, 6 years. We don't know when they move on to middle school. Who's gonna come in? 715 01:38:41.920 --> 01:38:47.920 WLWV School Board: We might have to readjust again when that next cohort group comes in of K. 5. 716 01:38:48.030 --> 01:38:51.539 WLWV School Board: See where they reside, where they're going to school, and 717 01:38:51.660 --> 01:38:55.719 WLWV School Board: how many families who still live in those neighborhoods have elementary children. 718 01:38:56.180 --> 01:39:05.410 WLWV School Board: But if that's a value of the board and a direction. To do that we would we could make that announcement to the community with that plan. 719 01:39:06.364 --> 01:39:13.989 WLWV School Board: We do have a practice in the district where families can request to transfer, and that would 720 01:39:14.690 --> 01:39:21.960 WLWV School Board: still be in effect. And so, you know, the families of those 39 children 721 01:39:22.270 --> 01:39:26.200 WLWV School Board: at sunset could request to stay and not move. 722 01:39:27.950 --> 01:39:34.450 WLWV School Board: We have in the past historically approved transfers. If there's space 723 01:39:34.800 --> 01:39:42.059 WLWV School Board: where the families are requesting, and because we have space at all of our schools where they're going or where they're staying. 724 01:39:42.490 --> 01:39:48.000 WLWV School Board: We would say yes to a family being able to stay at their current school. 725 01:39:48.400 --> 01:39:50.460 WLWV School Board: So while we could have this plan 726 01:39:51.000 --> 01:39:54.819 WLWV School Board: and present it to the community. I'm not sure that 727 01:39:55.630 --> 01:39:57.850 WLWV School Board: we would have all the families move 728 01:39:58.210 --> 01:40:04.969 WLWV School Board: according to the plan. I can imagine that they would ask to stay at their current school, and if we have space available. 729 01:40:05.130 --> 01:40:13.160 WLWV School Board: that we would allow that it would be if the Board said, do not approve any transfers 730 01:40:13.410 --> 01:40:16.390 WLWV School Board: that we would have to have that type of a direction. 731 01:40:16.680 --> 01:40:23.430 WLWV School Board: because, currently and historically, we have approved all in district transfers. As long as there's space available. 732 01:40:24.670 --> 01:40:32.360 WLWV School Board: so I'll just pause there and see what questions you have. But you. You should have that chart available for you to take a look at, and 733 01:40:32.540 --> 01:40:37.650 WLWV School Board: any questions you have about whether that's possible. Yes, whether it would 734 01:40:37.980 --> 01:40:45.990 WLWV School Board: happen I don't know, because I can imagine community members having an opinion about whether they want to move or not. 735 01:40:49.040 --> 01:40:52.040 WLWV School Board: Go ahead, Micah. 736 01:40:53.650 --> 01:41:09.399 WLWV School Board: So in one of the scenarios, as you were talking about redrawing the boundaries, if a school closes. Is that still going? Is the soft, choice boundary going to apply, and they can still ask to do an inner district transfer to the school that they don't want to 737 01:41:09.690 --> 01:41:10.879 WLWV School Board: get moved to. 738 01:41:11.620 --> 01:41:17.979 WLWV School Board: Yes, and we mentioned that in the presentation that if there was a school that did consolidate 739 01:41:18.100 --> 01:41:22.830 WLWV School Board: our clothes, and then we said, these are the 2 740 01:41:23.700 --> 01:41:34.229 WLWV School Board: choices. These are the 2 areas that we're going to redraw the boundaries. If a family said, we prefer actually somewhere else. And there's space at that school which we do have, then we would approve that transfer. 741 01:41:35.290 --> 01:41:48.450 WLWV School Board: So we did mention that also in the presentation that right now there is capacity at all of our schools. And so if we're a family, you know, choice is important. When there's some difficult 742 01:41:48.570 --> 01:41:54.120 WLWV School Board: things that are happening, we would be. We would work incredibly hard to help family get to where they 743 01:41:54.550 --> 01:41:56.289 WLWV School Board: prefer to be in the next year. 744 01:41:56.420 --> 01:41:58.600 WLWV School Board: if there was a closure of a school. 745 01:42:00.150 --> 01:42:06.269 WLWV School Board: I have a question, I've received emails from people whose kids come here from. 746 01:42:08.260 --> 01:42:17.870 WLWV School Board: I received emails from community members who live outside of our community. But their kids come in from neighboring 747 01:42:18.040 --> 01:42:23.210 WLWV School Board: cities. And I I've you know, and they've asked, Hey. 748 01:42:23.330 --> 01:42:31.159 WLWV School Board: whatever decision you're going to make if it's going to happen, what's going to happen with my kid if he's or she is coming from a neighboring community 749 01:42:31.310 --> 01:42:31.920 WLWV School Board: and 750 01:42:32.790 --> 01:42:37.029 WLWV School Board: And then we've heard and have received emails from 751 01:42:37.550 --> 01:42:42.779 WLWV School Board: our residents in this community who said that if you're going to consolidate schools 752 01:42:43.170 --> 01:42:48.700 WLWV School Board: and we're gonna have upwards of 28 kids in a class, potentially. 753 01:42:49.160 --> 01:42:52.250 WLWV School Board: why are we still allowing neighboring kids to come in 754 01:42:52.390 --> 01:43:00.319 WLWV School Board: and increase our class sizes? So in the event a school were to happen to be closed and consolidation happened? 755 01:43:00.760 --> 01:43:06.759 WLWV School Board: Would we, as a district, be considering telling all of the neighboring communities that your kids can no longer come to school here 756 01:43:07.100 --> 01:43:11.309 WLWV School Board: to bring our class sizes down. Has that been something that's been considered? 757 01:43:14.420 --> 01:43:16.920 WLWV School Board: So your 1st question was, 758 01:43:17.560 --> 01:43:19.960 WLWV School Board: You've got community members 759 01:43:20.210 --> 01:43:31.030 WLWV School Board: who are outside the district wondering what would happen if if the school they're attending, that they did an interdistrict transfer closed correct for them because 760 01:43:31.390 --> 01:43:38.589 WLWV School Board: they don't reside in the neighborhood of the school that was closed, or already transferring in, we would ask them we would let them know where 761 01:43:39.130 --> 01:43:47.349 WLWV School Board: the new boundary is, where their classmates might be going. Of the other 2 schools, and then they would need to let us know where their 762 01:43:47.510 --> 01:43:49.850 WLWV School Board: where their request is for their transfer. 763 01:43:50.470 --> 01:43:56.859 WLWV School Board: because they don't reside in that neighborhood, so that would be the process for that in terms of 764 01:43:57.180 --> 01:44:08.530 WLWV School Board: can we revoke a transfer that's already been provided by by statute. Once a family has been accepted as a transfer. They 765 01:44:08.820 --> 01:44:13.520 WLWV School Board: they are considered then a resident, and they stay through graduation. 766 01:44:14.990 --> 01:44:15.750 WLWV School Board: Thank you. 767 01:44:19.810 --> 01:44:21.400 WLWV School Board: Director Vidal. Anything. 768 01:44:23.490 --> 01:44:25.981 WLWV School Board: Sure, I have a question. 769 01:44:27.180 --> 01:44:32.440 WLWV School Board: that I had sent in, and it pertains to 770 01:44:33.020 --> 01:44:37.720 WLWV School Board: a table. The small schools task force provided to us. 771 01:44:38.413 --> 01:44:42.939 WLWV School Board: Regarding the percentage of housing units by attendance area. 772 01:44:43.040 --> 01:44:53.080 WLWV School Board: So the percentage of units per attendance area varies with Bolton at the low end at 12%. And this means that 773 01:44:53.290 --> 01:45:02.219 WLWV School Board: 12% of the number of dwellings in the entire district are in the Bolton boundary. 774 01:45:02.330 --> 01:45:04.990 WLWV School Board: while at the high end is William. 775 01:45:05.380 --> 01:45:19.670 WLWV School Board: the Median percentage. Dan. I looked this definition up so proud of me. The media, the median percentage is 16.5%. 776 01:45:19.880 --> 01:45:40.989 WLWV School Board: If you look at every single primary school, the median would be 16.5%, which is below the average, which is 17.6%. This would mean that in order for Bolton to reach that that 16.5%, it would need 62 additional units developed. 777 01:45:41.610 --> 01:45:51.689 WLWV School Board: And I'm curious as to why the Bolton boundary was drawn significantly smaller compared to the other attendance areas. 778 01:45:54.740 --> 01:45:58.230 WLWV School Board: Sure I can. I can talk about that. And then I think 779 01:45:58.560 --> 01:46:01.689 WLWV School Board: Pat may have some opinions about housing. 780 01:46:03.205 --> 01:46:04.350 WLWV School Board: When 781 01:46:04.660 --> 01:46:13.830 WLWV School Board: when Bolton reopened, and you, I think you've got the history of yeah, the evolution it actually 1st opened as a preschool center. 782 01:46:14.070 --> 01:46:17.100 WLWV School Board: And so it started with a lot of preschools. 783 01:46:17.660 --> 01:46:28.189 WLWV School Board: And the sense was that as we launched a vision back at that time, and the the principal who opened Bolton was Dr. Margaret Allen. 784 01:46:28.560 --> 01:46:32.940 WLWV School Board: that the school district could have a preschool center or hub. 785 01:46:33.160 --> 01:46:36.540 WLWV School Board: and then students from there would go to their neighborhood school. 786 01:46:36.810 --> 01:46:41.549 WLWV School Board: Bolton did not have a boundary. It was. It was a choice for a preschool 787 01:46:43.070 --> 01:46:51.340 WLWV School Board: As preschool parents became, of course, attached to Bolton. They wanted to stay for kindergarten, and it became pretty clear that 788 01:46:52.310 --> 01:47:08.520 WLWV School Board: the staff was very committed, and the district wanted to accommodate those requests, and at that time we were growing in Westland and Trillium Creek had not been built yet it was scheduled. It was in the long plan for a capital bond coming up. 789 01:47:08.970 --> 01:47:18.380 WLWV School Board: and so Bolton switched to being an option school and then accommodated kindergarten first, st second. 790 01:47:18.720 --> 01:47:23.660 WLWV School Board: and then at some point it became clear that it needed a boundary, and 791 01:47:23.810 --> 01:47:36.469 WLWV School Board: because it had at that time quite a number of preschools still in its school. The rest of the of the schools did not have preschools at that time. When Bolton created its boundary. 792 01:47:36.960 --> 01:47:44.109 WLWV School Board: I think there were even about 5 or 6 or 7 preschool classes. There were parenting classes, Mom and me classes. 793 01:47:44.210 --> 01:47:52.169 WLWV School Board: and so the remaining classrooms would be able would have to accommodate kindergarten through 5.th So keeping preschool there 794 01:47:52.340 --> 01:47:57.900 WLWV School Board: and then accommodating for K. 5 is what created that 795 01:47:58.200 --> 01:48:08.080 WLWV School Board: initial boundary? How much room did Bolton have for K. 5. Considering it also held all of the preschools in the district. 796 01:48:08.610 --> 01:48:11.040 WLWV School Board: and at that time we didn't know 797 01:48:11.220 --> 01:48:14.059 WLWV School Board: how many more preschools we would be adding at Bolton. 798 01:48:14.660 --> 01:48:19.659 WLWV School Board: So that's maybe part A to your question historically. 799 01:48:19.920 --> 01:48:26.929 WLWV School Board: And then, of course, when we opened Trillium, there was the opportunity to think about boundaries again. 800 01:48:27.230 --> 01:48:45.299 WLWV School Board: particularly for sunset and other areas around that there was a lot of conversation. Families may remember who have been here a while around walking boundaries and walking to school and prioritizing that for schools as much as possible. 801 01:48:45.730 --> 01:48:50.469 WLWV School Board: We also opened trillium with a dual language program 802 01:48:50.690 --> 01:48:59.720 WLWV School Board: to accommodate there. And so it needed to have space, not only for students from across the district across West Lynn, who didn't reside, but were coming for that program. 803 01:49:00.080 --> 01:49:14.939 WLWV School Board: and the board at that time also said that siblings of dual language students would also be welcome even if they weren't in the program. So we had to think about the size of trillium to accommodate the dual language program and siblings. 804 01:49:15.060 --> 01:49:17.150 WLWV School Board: and where its boundary would be. 805 01:49:17.730 --> 01:49:35.239 WLWV School Board: Bolton, still holding a lot of the preschools, and then, of course, thinking about the other schools. It's not a perfect science, because family dynamics don't stay the same all the time children grow up they still stay in the neighborhood. Now they move to middle school and high school. 806 01:49:35.450 --> 01:49:41.480 WLWV School Board: and so the families, the composite of the families change within those boundaries. 807 01:49:41.990 --> 01:49:47.560 WLWV School Board: So there are times when we do make what we call soft adjustments if we feel that they're needed. 808 01:49:49.040 --> 01:49:51.280 WLWV School Board: And we've done that periodically. 809 01:49:51.970 --> 01:49:58.719 WLWV School Board: So I hope that describes why Bolton's boundary started the way it did and and 810 01:49:59.110 --> 01:50:06.840 WLWV School Board: did accommodate quite a few preschools. It also has the smallest site. 811 01:50:07.494 --> 01:50:20.569 WLWV School Board: There's no, there's a very small couple. Small playgrounds. It doesn't have a field parking is limited, so we always kind of knew as well that it was a little landlocked and made it challenging in terms of 812 01:50:21.121 --> 01:50:24.730 WLWV School Board: its size, and so to be mindful of 813 01:50:24.950 --> 01:50:33.539 WLWV School Board: whether all the faculty could park there. And also, if it grew larger, would students feel like they had adequate play space 814 01:50:34.000 --> 01:50:36.730 WLWV School Board: given its location. 815 01:50:39.300 --> 01:50:41.690 WLWV School Board: Do you want to add anything about Nope? Okay. 816 01:50:49.270 --> 01:50:51.199 WLWV School Board: back down here, any other? 817 01:50:54.130 --> 01:50:57.980 WLWV School Board: You're asking if I have any more comments? Well, I just 818 01:50:58.910 --> 01:51:02.680 WLWV School Board: in the spirit of discussion. I had a point 819 01:51:03.150 --> 01:51:08.400 WLWV School Board: to Dan's initial question about the reboundary issue. 820 01:51:08.850 --> 01:51:15.559 WLWV School Board: and after Dr. Ludwig's explanation, and then just seeing those numbers. 821 01:51:16.130 --> 01:51:18.330 WLWV School Board: I just think that it would be 822 01:51:18.900 --> 01:51:23.860 WLWV School Board: disastrous at this point in time to inform the whole community that we are going to. 823 01:51:24.480 --> 01:51:26.979 WLWV School Board: All of their kids are going to have to go to new schools. 824 01:51:27.290 --> 01:51:32.580 WLWV School Board: I do think that it was an absence of leadership, probably years and years ago. 825 01:51:32.720 --> 01:51:41.410 WLWV School Board: to not seek the wisdom and knowledge that we've learned from families about the benefits of small schools and try to find that 826 01:51:41.810 --> 01:51:45.080 WLWV School Board: balance across our schools. But I 827 01:51:45.560 --> 01:51:53.220 WLWV School Board: I just feel like at this point in time to say to a hundred trillion kids, you know, tomorrow you have to go to a new school like 828 01:51:53.330 --> 01:51:58.380 WLWV School Board: it just seems like a really bad timing for that. So I don't know if that's what you were asking or suggesting. 829 01:51:59.085 --> 01:52:05.020 WLWV School Board: As part of this. But I feel like that. That seems that much at this point. 830 01:52:06.210 --> 01:52:10.750 WLWV School Board: But I would as a board, you know. Perhaps we 831 01:52:10.860 --> 01:52:12.969 WLWV School Board: talk at a later date about 832 01:52:13.090 --> 01:52:15.750 WLWV School Board: how do we look bigger picture at 833 01:52:15.990 --> 01:52:20.059 WLWV School Board: finding that balance that we've learned about throughout this whole process. 834 01:52:22.010 --> 01:52:24.830 WLWV School Board: Can I engage us in some mathematics real quickly? 835 01:52:27.246 --> 01:52:32.359 WLWV School Board: So my interest in trying to level out. 836 01:52:33.040 --> 01:52:38.801 WLWV School Board: That is, is, when I look at the it's on page 22, the the rather stark 837 01:52:40.190 --> 01:52:47.180 WLWV School Board: spending per student right? And that, and that Bolton spending is at 21,000. 838 01:52:48.310 --> 01:53:00.179 WLWV School Board: And it's about 4,000 above the average per student in the in the Westland or yeah, the Westlands, or I guess all of the schools district wide. It's about 4,000 more per student average. 839 01:53:00.500 --> 01:53:04.049 WLWV School Board: And I think it's pretty clear. That's a function of its size. Right? 840 01:53:04.430 --> 01:53:07.049 WLWV School Board: So here's the math. 841 01:53:07.980 --> 01:53:14.920 WLWV School Board: If you had 230 students and you weren't spending that instead, you were saving 4,000 because you were spending at the average. 842 01:53:16.300 --> 01:53:19.219 WLWV School Board: That's that's almost a million dollars, right? 843 01:53:20.630 --> 01:53:34.280 WLWV School Board: And you only achieve that bringing that average down by putting more students there. Now, you can also save money by consolidating and and doing it that way. So I'm I'm not saying that consolidation doesn't do that. 844 01:53:34.380 --> 01:53:36.660 WLWV School Board: But if we were to have average 845 01:53:38.040 --> 01:53:41.840 WLWV School Board: cost per student be more equal across schools. 846 01:53:42.070 --> 01:53:45.799 WLWV School Board: Then we save nearly a million dollars just doing that. 847 01:53:46.100 --> 01:54:05.620 WLWV School Board: Now, how do we do that? Well, we could tell students, you have no choice. You have to go to a school. I'm not in favor of that. I think the the choice that we've given students in the past has been fine, but we're looking a little bit long range here, I mean, after all, I think I've heard the number. What 1415,000,000. If you think 10 years out. 848 01:54:06.130 --> 01:54:15.719 WLWV School Board: I'm thinking about, how do you go out and get that change over time in the short run? No, we would not next year get 350 students there. 849 01:54:16.040 --> 01:54:23.070 WLWV School Board: So we would not realize that savings right away. But part of our our consideration is, I think 850 01:54:23.360 --> 01:54:25.980 WLWV School Board: consolidation is absolutely worth considering. 851 01:54:26.735 --> 01:54:34.430 WLWV School Board: If it's gonna save us more than a million dollars a year year after year. I'm also thinking about a year after year savings that way. 852 01:54:36.600 --> 01:54:43.219 WLWV School Board: Yeah, I absolutely agree with that. And I think that's why, in my opening comments. 853 01:54:43.360 --> 01:54:46.690 WLWV School Board: I just worry about this concept of. 854 01:54:46.880 --> 01:54:51.740 WLWV School Board: have we engaged the whole community versus just 855 01:54:52.760 --> 01:54:56.750 WLWV School Board: just a smaller portion of this community. Because, I mean. 856 01:54:56.850 --> 01:54:58.979 WLWV School Board: again, if we start thinking about 857 01:54:59.440 --> 01:55:08.349 WLWV School Board: our entire district and every every school. Then all of a sudden, this becomes a much bigger conversation. So. But thank you. I appreciate that you brought this up for us. 858 01:55:08.700 --> 01:55:12.489 WLWV School Board: I think one of the things that I think about when it comes to boundaries is. 859 01:55:13.380 --> 01:55:18.070 WLWV School Board: there's only so many areas that you can add housing in the city of Westland. 860 01:55:18.350 --> 01:55:23.209 WLWV School Board: or in the surrounding unincorporated Clackamas County, which is where I live. 861 01:55:23.590 --> 01:55:30.010 WLWV School Board: And I think, as John Mccabe said earlier, there's a decision that just came out, I mean, I live in Stafford Hamlet. So 862 01:55:30.200 --> 01:55:32.970 WLWV School Board: I live in a community that is very anti-development. 863 01:55:34.500 --> 01:55:40.220 WLWV School Board: you know, I live on acreage. So I'm okay with that. But you know, but I also know that development needs to happen. 864 01:55:40.420 --> 01:55:46.710 WLWV School Board: And so if you have a ruling that just said that we're not going to allow for development in Stafford 865 01:55:47.400 --> 01:55:52.190 WLWV School Board: which immediately affects Stafford elementary, which is where my children went 866 01:55:53.510 --> 01:56:02.120 WLWV School Board: and then to the older athe, which is now Riverside, and you only have development opportunities. Where else? 867 01:56:02.330 --> 01:56:08.129 WLWV School Board: So, as you redraw boundaries, you can't just take a boundary and draw it, and there's no chance of development. 868 01:56:08.310 --> 01:56:10.830 WLWV School Board: and as wherever they do develop. 869 01:56:10.980 --> 01:56:16.449 WLWV School Board: right, you're gonna have to redraw them again. And you're displacing the same people over and over again, basically, in the city of West Lynn. 870 01:56:16.870 --> 01:56:22.180 WLWV School Board: So just continuing to redraw the boundary for a forecast 10 years down the road doesn't make sense. 871 01:56:22.450 --> 01:56:27.400 WLWV School Board: So if we were gonna red, do a boundary redraw. It should be drawn in a way. 872 01:56:27.860 --> 01:56:33.519 WLWV School Board: wherever the growth is heading to encompass, where new housing actually can go. 873 01:56:34.487 --> 01:56:39.920 WLWV School Board: I guess technically, if operlander were not to be bought by the city. 874 01:56:40.350 --> 01:56:42.920 WLWV School Board: which I guess we'll figure that all out. 875 01:56:43.442 --> 01:56:47.400 WLWV School Board: And if it does, if it is bought by the city, and it remains 876 01:56:47.560 --> 01:56:52.580 WLWV School Board: a field, or whatever they decide to turn it into. That's not an opportunity for new housing. 877 01:56:52.940 --> 01:57:01.410 WLWV School Board: if it is not by the city bought by the city, and someone else buys and decides to do something else with it. It may be developed, it may not be developed, we don't know. 878 01:57:02.780 --> 01:57:07.130 WLWV School Board: so is there some consideration. For where there's actually opportunity 879 01:57:07.510 --> 01:57:12.729 WLWV School Board: for housing to actually start to move in this boundary thought process. 880 01:57:19.440 --> 01:57:43.950 WLWV School Board: when you receive that flow, analytics report and that projection for 10 years. They are considering future development. So they meet with city planners. They meet with city staff. Maybe Pat can speak more to who they're consulting. And when you look at the flow analytics report, you'll see a table in there about future development and the Year Projection of when it's going to happen. 881 01:57:44.190 --> 01:57:50.979 WLWV School Board: So you know, today's 1st column or the the 1st column of the 1st year of that 10 year 882 01:57:51.490 --> 01:58:15.060 WLWV School Board: projection looks like this year, but it does contemplate and have factored in future development, whether it's in sections of West Lynn or Wilsonville, and I'll let Pat speak more to that. My only challenge to that before Pat, before you go is that when you're talking about city bodies that are making decisions on where development goes, and then you get a ruling like this week 883 01:58:15.680 --> 01:58:18.219 WLWV School Board: that throws their projection all the way out the window. 884 01:58:18.750 --> 01:58:23.419 WLWV School Board: Because now, whatever they projected for the area of Stafford has just been killed. 885 01:58:23.830 --> 01:58:30.409 WLWV School Board: Yeah. And so I'm not saying that that was in there. But I mean, you know, it's it's yeah in that table. It it tells you. You know. 886 01:58:30.570 --> 01:58:40.169 WLWV School Board: if it's within that 10 years that it's going to happen, then it's factored in that table. So, for example, we had a lot of community members ask us about vision 43. 887 01:58:40.800 --> 01:58:59.710 WLWV School Board: That's not factored in the table, because city staff gave us feedback and said, Vision 43 is too far beyond a 10 year forecast. It's it's way out there. We're just starting to have those conversations. So they had no information to give flow analytics in terms of definitive or development. 888 01:59:00.420 --> 01:59:04.880 WLWV School Board: So that's not factored in. But those kinds of plans that 889 01:59:05.350 --> 01:59:09.539 WLWV School Board: that are expected within those 10 years are in that table. 890 01:59:09.950 --> 01:59:19.890 WLWV School Board: It doesn't answer your boundary question, but it is a way of looking out and saying, if we use this table, can we see where movement is going to happen? 891 01:59:20.170 --> 01:59:32.210 WLWV School Board: Because flow analytics kept those same boundaries in that table. They didn't change boundaries, so they can show us what Bolton would look like in 10 years, or Cedar, Oak Park or Willamette within the same. 892 01:59:32.870 --> 01:59:36.230 WLWV School Board: you know, boundaries that we have drawn today. 893 01:59:36.480 --> 01:59:42.830 WLWV School Board: Thank you. Now remember, flow. Analytics also gave us 3 scenarios, a high a medium and a low. 894 01:59:42.980 --> 01:59:46.019 WLWV School Board: So the one we've been using the most is the medium. 895 01:59:46.850 --> 01:59:51.189 WLWV School Board: And the reason for that is exactly to your point. Chair, Taylor. Something could happen. 896 01:59:51.450 --> 02:00:07.679 WLWV School Board: you know, and it could skew one of those predictions in terms of either one section of a planning development or one little area, and then we might be closer to the low scenario, or maybe closer to the high scenario. So that's why they gave us 897 02:00:08.250 --> 02:00:19.289 WLWV School Board: 3 scenarios depending just because of occurrences that are that could happen that could change some of those plans. Gotcha pat! Did you want to add anything? 898 02:00:21.410 --> 02:00:29.767 WLWV School Board: He keeps stealing? My, my thunder, mostly during the planning stage, when Flow met with 899 02:00:30.510 --> 02:00:36.100 WLWV School Board: local jurisdiction planners. That's the city of Wesley and city of Wilsonville. 900 02:00:36.320 --> 02:00:44.939 WLWV School Board: Little bit, and the the leaders from the city of Tualatin, Clackamas County, Washington County, and Metro. 901 02:00:45.180 --> 02:00:56.619 WLWV School Board: They outlined what their projected growth was, what they projected within their areas. So the city staff for the city of West Lynn 902 02:00:56.760 --> 02:01:02.469 WLWV School Board: projected out where they believe the greatest development would occur. 903 02:01:02.640 --> 02:01:09.416 WLWV School Board: and while the table gives us very specific breakdown of permits that are currently 904 02:01:10.090 --> 02:01:21.559 WLWV School Board: being pulled and planned developments. Most of the city of Westland is infill construction, that is, to meet either 905 02:01:21.690 --> 02:01:26.850 WLWV School Board: vacant lots or oversized lots where they will add a second unit. 906 02:01:27.220 --> 02:01:32.930 WLWV School Board: So it it did not have the projected growth of the city of Wilsonville. 907 02:01:33.070 --> 02:01:38.090 WLWV School Board: but it did project some slight increase over time. 908 02:01:41.360 --> 02:01:42.240 WLWV School Board: Thank you. 909 02:01:51.290 --> 02:01:52.430 WLWV School Board: We ponder 910 02:01:55.760 --> 02:02:01.099 WLWV School Board: anything else. We've had a couple of weeks to think about a lot of this. 911 02:02:03.390 --> 02:02:03.980 WLWV School Board: I 912 02:02:04.790 --> 02:02:11.370 WLWV School Board: Was the last I think of all of us to to read anything, because I was busy meeting with community people and 913 02:02:12.477 --> 02:02:16.620 WLWV School Board: listening to board meetings and whatnot before I 914 02:02:16.790 --> 02:02:19.139 WLWV School Board: went through all of this stuff, so 915 02:02:19.910 --> 02:02:22.141 WLWV School Board: I feel pretty good about where I'm at 916 02:02:23.820 --> 02:02:29.270 WLWV School Board: But I want to continue the dialogue. If there's anything less left for us to 917 02:02:29.980 --> 02:02:35.370 WLWV School Board: to continue to talk about. I think that no matter what we decide to do today, there's going to be a lot of 918 02:02:36.520 --> 02:02:44.629 WLWV School Board: this is just step one of many, you know. There's there's going to be work to do after the this with possible boundaries or 919 02:02:44.770 --> 02:02:54.830 WLWV School Board: possible solutions. So I think this is just kind of just beginning, in my opinion. Correct me if I'm wrong, Dr. Ludwig, or Pat, or but 920 02:02:55.320 --> 02:02:57.430 WLWV School Board: yep, so there's a lot of work left 921 02:02:59.720 --> 02:03:03.059 WLWV School Board: but what stands before us today? 922 02:03:03.523 --> 02:03:09.309 WLWV School Board: And I think all of you at some point. And you and you, I'm going to give you guys another opportunity to 923 02:03:09.810 --> 02:03:13.680 WLWV School Board: to kind of speak to is. 924 02:03:15.480 --> 02:03:21.859 WLWV School Board: we have a few different motions that are in front of us, and I'm not sure if 925 02:03:22.460 --> 02:03:25.169 WLWV School Board: I just want to let everybody know kind of what those are. 926 02:03:25.697 --> 02:03:30.770 WLWV School Board: And the choices that might come out as a motion today, and one of those is 927 02:03:31.520 --> 02:03:37.200 WLWV School Board: not to consolidate any of the 3 small schools for 2,02526, school year. 928 02:03:38.241 --> 02:03:43.780 WLWV School Board: The second is that we consolidate a primary school. 929 02:03:44.370 --> 02:03:47.810 WLWV School Board: and that would take effect next year, and then 930 02:03:47.920 --> 02:03:51.229 WLWV School Board: the last option before us today to consider 931 02:03:51.510 --> 02:03:55.210 WLWV School Board: is if we would consolidate a primary school to take effect 932 02:03:55.350 --> 02:03:59.370 WLWV School Board: next year, and then another primary school. 933 02:04:00.790 --> 02:04:03.960 WLWV School Board: To take effect in 2027. 934 02:04:04.450 --> 02:04:12.820 WLWV School Board: So those are the 3 things that are before us as a school board to think about. 935 02:04:13.690 --> 02:04:18.660 WLWV School Board: And Mr. Wyatt, anything you want to add. 936 02:04:21.850 --> 02:04:30.000 WLWV School Board: I think, before I mean it is acceptable for us to perhaps 937 02:04:30.560 --> 02:04:35.509 WLWV School Board: by consensus. See if we are closer to agreement before 938 02:04:35.760 --> 02:04:38.870 WLWV School Board: continuing with our discussions. And so. 939 02:04:39.050 --> 02:04:43.870 WLWV School Board: if we had consensus that might narrow down the focus of our discussion. 940 02:04:45.950 --> 02:04:47.180 WLWV School Board: And so 941 02:04:47.440 --> 02:04:53.550 WLWV School Board: if if folks were comfortable with that, we could see if there was consensus regarding where we are. 942 02:04:56.060 --> 02:05:00.989 WLWV School Board: I'm looking to see if folks would be open to me asking a consensus style question 943 02:05:02.450 --> 02:05:09.360 WLWV School Board: and so I would be interested to know, like, based on nods or thumbs up. Or however, you'd like to indicate. 944 02:05:09.540 --> 02:05:27.240 WLWV School Board: If we have consensus regarding, not consolidating 2 schools, meaning that we might, we might shift our discussion to talk about the possibility of just consolidating one school. So, moving away from the idea of 2 schools, and and I think the alternative would be if I didn't see 945 02:05:27.490 --> 02:05:30.120 WLWV School Board: any indication in support of that. 946 02:05:30.360 --> 02:05:31.200 WLWV School Board: The 947 02:05:32.570 --> 02:05:42.879 WLWV School Board: that by not indicating your support of that would mean that you'd want to continue talking about consolidating more than one school. So I'm looking for consensus meaning you want to just talk about 948 02:05:43.778 --> 02:05:45.930 WLWV School Board: not consolidating 2 schools. 949 02:05:49.570 --> 02:05:51.249 WLWV School Board: You want to consolidate just one. 950 02:05:52.140 --> 02:06:01.920 WLWV School Board: Yeah. So you would. Your thumbs up represents that you are okay with not discussing closing 2 schools. Okay. 951 02:06:06.020 --> 02:06:11.459 WLWV School Board: okay, I don't have any interest in discussing it. So we can just take that one 952 02:06:12.170 --> 02:06:14.639 WLWV School Board: out of the equation, I'll scratch it. 953 02:06:16.350 --> 02:06:26.259 WLWV School Board: So now that the the discussion now is down to consideration for no schools. 954 02:06:26.810 --> 02:06:30.000 WLWV School Board: or possibly consolidating one school. 955 02:06:30.640 --> 02:06:32.980 WLWV School Board: And so since we know that we're not gonna 956 02:06:33.130 --> 02:06:38.100 WLWV School Board: consider consolidating 2 schools, we can shift that conversation now to 957 02:06:39.390 --> 02:06:42.669 WLWV School Board: other things or other that may have been on your mind 958 02:06:42.910 --> 02:06:49.999 WLWV School Board: about those 2 options. So, and in the spirit of that kind of consensus narrowing down 959 02:06:51.646 --> 02:06:54.739 WLWV School Board: could I ask one more consensus style question? 960 02:06:58.120 --> 02:07:03.450 WLWV School Board: Could we also not consider the consolidation 961 02:07:03.790 --> 02:07:08.680 WLWV School Board: of Cedar Oak Park School this evening? Given the staff recommendation. 962 02:07:09.460 --> 02:07:16.739 WLWV School Board: which would mean that Bolton and Stafford schools would be the 2 we would be discussing this evening. 963 02:07:19.214 --> 02:07:26.700 WLWV School Board: I think I would want them to reiterate why, they add that as a as a recommendation 964 02:07:29.980 --> 02:07:37.109 WLWV School Board: just so that so that the community might hear, not everybody is up to speed on that I mean, I'm not asking for me. I'm asking 965 02:07:38.230 --> 02:07:39.230 WLWV School Board: other folks. 966 02:07:47.020 --> 02:07:50.700 WLWV School Board: Can I just say, before that happens, that I'm not in favor of doing that 967 02:07:51.110 --> 02:07:58.719 WLWV School Board: me neither. I'm not in favor of excluding one for the purpose of discussion for the purpose of discussion. I'd rather include all of them. 968 02:07:59.380 --> 02:08:05.410 WLWV School Board: Okay? Well, then, you don't have to answer that question because I'm not interested either. But that's 3, so we can move on from that. 969 02:08:07.980 --> 02:08:11.380 WLWV School Board: See, I saved you guys some page turning. 970 02:08:14.620 --> 02:08:18.810 WLWV School Board: So now all schools are within the discussion. 971 02:08:21.180 --> 02:08:26.770 WLWV School Board: Were there any other instances, questions that you had or anyone else has. 972 02:08:28.320 --> 02:08:29.050 WLWV School Board: Okay. 973 02:08:32.200 --> 02:08:38.890 WLWV School Board: moving on. That takes us down to couple of different options. And I'll repeat them again. 974 02:08:39.230 --> 02:08:43.680 WLWV School Board: The 2 options before us that remain is. 975 02:08:44.840 --> 02:08:47.590 WLWV School Board: do we not consolidate any of the 3 976 02:08:48.360 --> 02:08:50.810 WLWV School Board: schools that have been labeled Small schools? 977 02:08:52.910 --> 02:08:57.469 WLWV School Board: Or we consolidate one of the 3, 978 02:08:57.620 --> 02:09:02.859 WLWV School Board: since they are all open for discussion to take effect 979 02:09:03.130 --> 02:09:05.950 WLWV School Board: in the 2,02526, school year. 980 02:09:07.450 --> 02:09:08.780 WLWV School Board: Are there any other? 981 02:09:16.040 --> 02:09:17.870 WLWV School Board: I have a question for you as chair. 982 02:09:18.650 --> 02:09:20.307 WLWV School Board: Would you prefer? 983 02:09:21.880 --> 02:09:24.099 WLWV School Board: That discussion happen 984 02:09:24.370 --> 02:09:30.470 WLWV School Board: after a motion is made? Or are you still open to for us to have deliberations generally before a motion is made. 985 02:09:32.036 --> 02:09:36.590 WLWV School Board: I'm I'm open for deliberation, Prior, and after. But 986 02:09:36.810 --> 02:09:40.920 WLWV School Board: if there's no more deliberation to be had, Prior. 987 02:09:41.260 --> 02:09:43.400 WLWV School Board: I don't have anything to deliberate. So 988 02:09:44.110 --> 02:09:49.569 WLWV School Board: this is about the the 4 of you at this point for me, so I'll let you know that 989 02:09:50.220 --> 02:09:53.420 WLWV School Board: I'll keep asking until I'm blue in the face until you say no, but 990 02:09:54.260 --> 02:09:56.230 WLWV School Board: I'm pretty solid in where I'm at. 991 02:09:59.430 --> 02:10:01.641 WLWV School Board: Okay. So if that's the case 992 02:10:02.210 --> 02:10:04.190 WLWV School Board: I'm sorry if what's the case. 993 02:10:05.750 --> 02:10:09.619 WLWV School Board: Good catch, is it? I think I missed that. Okay, no worries. 994 02:10:10.170 --> 02:10:11.420 WLWV School Board: I said that. 995 02:10:12.189 --> 02:10:22.049 WLWV School Board: We can have deliberation prior to a motion being made, or we can wait for a motion to be made for one or the other, and 996 02:10:22.330 --> 02:10:26.460 WLWV School Board: see if that motion passes, and then have deliberation. 997 02:10:26.740 --> 02:10:31.329 WLWV School Board: Post the motion so, and then I followed that up with. 998 02:10:31.680 --> 02:10:34.290 WLWV School Board: I'm solid. So this is about the 4 of you. 999 02:10:34.600 --> 02:10:37.459 WLWV School Board: I don't have much to deliberate, but 1000 02:10:40.800 --> 02:10:56.790 WLWV School Board: And the reason I was asking is that sometimes, once a motion is made, it can focus the discussion on the motion itself. But if there is more general discussion to be had. Now that we've kind of by consensus agreed that we're focused on consolidation of one school 1001 02:10:56.990 --> 02:11:10.170 WLWV School Board: sometimes. That is enough. And so that's why I was asking if he had a preference. It's chair, but he's saying that he's open to us just having a discussion now, or if someone has a motion, they'd like to put on the floor they could. 1002 02:11:11.440 --> 02:11:17.169 WLWV School Board: And the reason that I don't have a preference is because the magnitude of the decision, and so I'm not going to impose 1003 02:11:17.320 --> 02:11:20.180 WLWV School Board: my preference of anything on to you. So 1004 02:11:21.870 --> 02:11:26.020 WLWV School Board: Today you will make a decision whether you like it or not. 1005 02:11:26.560 --> 02:11:32.370 WLWV School Board: As will I, right. So I guess we can 1006 02:11:33.220 --> 02:11:37.940 WLWV School Board: move on to do. We have a motion to. 1007 02:11:39.200 --> 02:11:43.705 WLWV School Board: I'm gonna start with the 1st one just go in order. Do we have a motion to 1008 02:11:46.230 --> 02:11:52.090 WLWV School Board: Sorry I'm confused. I thought. What you were saying is, we were going to deliberate before the motion. 1009 02:11:52.300 --> 02:11:56.020 WLWV School Board: Oh, I did, but no one said anything, so 1010 02:11:56.520 --> 02:12:01.629 WLWV School Board: I would like to deliberate. Thank you. Okay, these mics work. 1011 02:12:02.760 --> 02:12:06.810 WLWV School Board: you know. Sometimes I'm not sure if I should. If I should be talking or 1012 02:12:07.820 --> 02:12:15.790 WLWV School Board: so something I guess I'd like to. I'd like to hear from you all a little bit is we've obviously heard a lot about the flow. Analytics report. 1013 02:12:16.326 --> 02:12:32.980 WLWV School Board: I'm not one who really doubts their methodology. I know some people do. I I tried to look more closely at it. It's very mathematical, you know, they've got multipliers. And they're saying, this is what we're going off. I don't doubt their data. What I'm concerned about 1014 02:12:33.110 --> 02:12:38.250 WLWV School Board: is that we lost a lot of students in a short period of time. 1015 02:12:38.460 --> 02:12:42.409 WLWV School Board: And that is not the same experience 1016 02:12:42.750 --> 02:12:48.840 WLWV School Board: that I mean. It's a similar experience a lot of districts had now. But it's not the same experience that districts had 1017 02:12:49.010 --> 02:13:04.169 WLWV School Board: that lost students very gradually over time, say from 1990 to 2,005. Say, if you're a district that lost that because maybe you had been a big growth district, and then you started to slow down right? And then you kind of dropped off, as districts do. 1018 02:13:04.770 --> 02:13:15.060 WLWV School Board: which inevitably will happen for our district as well, that we will lose population. But because there was a fairly quick drop. 1019 02:13:17.020 --> 02:13:20.709 WLWV School Board: I've struggled a little bit with my confidence in 1020 02:13:21.770 --> 02:13:27.110 WLWV School Board: that leveling staying level, and whether or not there might be some bump back. 1021 02:13:27.220 --> 02:13:35.950 WLWV School Board: I doubt that we'll bump all the way back, and as we know, most families, that because most of those people who left stayed within our district live still within our district. 1022 02:13:36.080 --> 02:13:38.039 WLWV School Board: But when those families 1023 02:13:38.260 --> 02:13:51.200 WLWV School Board: made that decision, we know that those families tend to not come back. They sometimes come back in their later years in school, but particularly at the elementary level. They tend to say we made a decision. We're going to write it and stay with it. 1024 02:13:51.856 --> 02:14:01.189 WLWV School Board: But because of that, I I, my thinking, has been. I don't know about that part of flow analytics. I'm just kind of curious. If any of you have had similar thinking about that or 1025 02:14:01.740 --> 02:14:05.719 WLWV School Board: what you know, I don't get that many times. This is my 1st time getting to ask you about that. 1026 02:14:06.060 --> 02:14:19.590 WLWV School Board: Yeah, I've had some. Is it. Okay, that I jump in. Yeah, I was in wonder. I yeah. So when we look at when we look at the numbers, we see that 891 students have left the district, which is 8.9% right? 1027 02:14:20.020 --> 02:14:21.533 WLWV School Board: And then 1028 02:14:22.450 --> 02:14:30.089 WLWV School Board: when we look at a small high school like riverside, which has about a hundred and something students. We see that 1029 02:14:30.150 --> 02:14:55.529 WLWV School Board: their leaders go out to our middle schools, and they're presenting to middle schools about how great riverside is, and how wonderful the programs are. And shouldn't you come to Riverside? And I believe in Riverside? I'm saying that right now. I believe in Riverside High School. Shouldn't we go? Shouldn't your student go to Riverside because of how unique we are right? 1030 02:14:55.790 --> 02:15:17.420 WLWV School Board: But do we see that happening at the primary school level. Do we see principals or teachers or parent groups? Ptas going to community members saying, Have you been to cedar Oak? Have you seen the amazing programs at Cedar Oak. 1031 02:15:17.965 --> 02:15:24.770 WLWV School Board: You know, I I really haven't heard those stories from the people that have been coming 1032 02:15:24.910 --> 02:15:51.190 WLWV School Board: to speak to us. I haven't heard that in the emails, I've actually heard that there's some confusion around how we, as a district, inform our community about how excellent we are, because when we look at 2 of these 3 small schools, we can see that they're the actual top performing academically top performing in the district. 1033 02:15:51.190 --> 02:16:10.290 WLWV School Board: And then when we look at belonging, we see that these 3 small schools are also doing really well in belonging. So it's really confusing to me how we have like a process for one small school, and then we don't really have a process 1034 02:16:10.690 --> 02:16:18.239 WLWV School Board: for primary schools. So that is what I have been really thinking about a lot. 1035 02:16:22.600 --> 02:16:27.289 WLWV School Board: and I've been struggling with the long range planning committee's previous report 1036 02:16:27.510 --> 02:16:36.910 WLWV School Board: as well as a flow analytics where they were showing Westland Wilsonville increasing in growth up to like 13,000. 1037 02:16:38.980 --> 02:16:46.249 WLWV School Board: there my feeling is as I'm processing through. All of this is, there's a lack of thinking outside the box 1038 02:16:46.530 --> 02:16:54.780 WLWV School Board: and focusing on, how can we increase our enrollment, whether it's allowing open houses? 1039 02:16:56.910 --> 02:17:10.170 WLWV School Board: Tours, expanding our pre-k preschool programs through expanding the career technical training, early early childhood development. 1040 02:17:10.570 --> 02:17:15.589 WLWV School Board: We have a teacher shortage. So I'm struggling with 1041 02:17:16.129 --> 02:17:19.129 WLWV School Board: in this whole process. With with our budget 1042 02:17:19.730 --> 02:17:24.939 WLWV School Board: we were focusing on whether or not to close a school, and instead of looking at 1043 02:17:25.080 --> 02:17:28.000 WLWV School Board: all of the options and just like Megan said, You know. 1044 02:17:29.209 --> 02:17:43.719 WLWV School Board: apparently the Mandarin Chinese program is on our website as well as Bolton. I looked. I just didn't think to look under program, but I feel that there's just a lack of communication and 1045 02:17:44.270 --> 02:17:53.320 WLWV School Board: highlighting our school district. But then, when you hear from parents, everybody says we moved to West Lynn Wilsonville, because of the schools. 1046 02:17:55.120 --> 02:17:59.691 WLWV School Board: one of the flow analytics had the birth rate. And again. I know this is can be 1047 02:18:01.420 --> 02:18:03.670 WLWV School Board: counter fact. But 1048 02:18:04.110 --> 02:18:16.309 WLWV School Board: a lot of parents don't like live here and then say, Oh, let's have kids, you know, like here. They're great schools, people in migrate into our district. My husband and I did the very same thing, and we were in our thirties. 1049 02:18:17.299 --> 02:18:28.319 WLWV School Board: So I'm struggling with the just, the lack of not highlighting our enrollment. 1050 02:18:28.510 --> 02:18:38.230 WLWV School Board: and, as Dan said, it was a rapid drop very quickly, and not over time, like Lake Oswego. When they closed their schools in the early 2 thousands. 1051 02:18:38.590 --> 02:18:47.129 WLWV School Board: it will correct and even flow. Analytics has primary enrollments increasing over, I mean, not the next year, but over time. 1052 02:18:47.379 --> 02:18:53.530 WLWV School Board: And we can highlight the unique uniqueness of the small schools just like Riverside. 1053 02:18:55.430 --> 02:19:00.640 WLWV School Board: I'm curious how much is that per student? We didn't have any data from 2223, 1054 02:19:00.750 --> 02:19:07.940 WLWV School Board: but I would say a significant amount per student versus what the other high schools are. 1055 02:19:08.680 --> 02:19:10.940 WLWV School Board: So that's all I have to say. 1056 02:19:18.549 --> 02:19:20.090 WLWV School Board: I mean, I think 1057 02:19:20.730 --> 02:19:28.199 WLWV School Board: if we could predict, if we could predict the future of of that, I mean, we would all we would predict 1058 02:19:28.330 --> 02:19:56.759 WLWV School Board: who's going to win the Super Bowl? We would predict. I mean, we would predict a lot of things. And I think what is, you know, so unique is even within our own district. We have, you know, such a vast difference in what's happening in terms of growth, and especially with housing. And I think this is where that interplay with, especially with housing and affordable housing, is coming into play. And I mean, we look at at the explosive growth and the building of homes in Wilsonville. 1059 02:19:56.890 --> 02:20:15.629 WLWV School Board: and we don't see that happening in West Lynn, and how incredibly expensive it is to move into this community with school age kids, I think for me, some of the most compelling stories have been about families who have moved here, and, you know, wanted to be in this district. 1060 02:20:16.170 --> 02:20:38.639 WLWV School Board: And you know the the fact that getting here has been really difficult, and I know that that has been part of flow analytics, calculations, and it almost seems cruel to market our district and then be, and to say, we're only we only have infill development, and it's going to be prohibitively expensive. So I think those numbers 1061 02:20:38.850 --> 02:20:51.510 WLWV School Board: like just, you know, on the surface, seem to make sense as well. In addition to birth rates being what they are. And then, not knowing what the next you know 4 to 8 years hold politically as well. So 1062 02:20:52.030 --> 02:20:54.917 WLWV School Board: I wish we knew we knew more. 1063 02:20:55.640 --> 02:21:03.419 WLWV School Board: but it is interesting to think about our district as a whole, and then our communities, and then the interplay with our local governments as well. For sure. 1064 02:21:03.660 --> 02:21:11.669 WLWV School Board: So I bring that up. Because I here's why I think this is, this is critical. The I personally believe that when you get 1065 02:21:12.300 --> 02:21:16.420 WLWV School Board: much above 90% capacity, that's a real challenge on a building? 1066 02:21:16.920 --> 02:21:21.090 WLWV School Board: So when we say we have some capacity and 1067 02:21:21.780 --> 02:21:43.169 WLWV School Board: and and we're moving students to buildings, and it moves them up to 90 or above. I know the numbers say we have capacity, but that gets to be a real challenge, and if we were to do that and and bump a bunch of schools up at 90 or more, and then we were wrong, and we end up with even 100 or 150 more students. 1068 02:21:43.760 --> 02:21:55.999 WLWV School Board: Then then we're really struggling with capacity. That I mean, that's why I bring that up. Because for me, that's a there's always a couple of kind of errors you can make. You could close a school when you shouldn't have, or you can not close the school when you should have 1069 02:21:56.200 --> 02:22:01.499 WLWV School Board: closing one when you shouldn't have. I worry about a little more than the other type of error. 1070 02:22:06.800 --> 02:22:11.930 WLWV School Board: And that leads to a question that I had earlier is, how is our capacity 1071 02:22:12.890 --> 02:22:18.460 WLWV School Board: defined? I was reading long range planning in the previous one, and it was a square footage ratio. 1072 02:22:19.850 --> 02:22:21.400 WLWV School Board: But then many are. 1073 02:22:21.730 --> 02:22:27.510 WLWV School Board: Another formula is where you take the number of classrooms, and for K through 3 you multiply it by 22, 1074 02:22:27.790 --> 02:22:33.570 WLWV School Board: 4, through 8 is 25. So where are we in these capacities? And then what is 1075 02:22:33.830 --> 02:22:45.149 WLWV School Board: the optimal capacity? As Dan said, you don't want to be at 90%. What is that optimal? I've looked at other school districts, and they they figure between 70 and 80% of their capacity. 1076 02:22:50.160 --> 02:22:58.679 WLWV School Board: So our long range planning committee does calculate based on square footage per student. 1077 02:22:59.160 --> 02:23:00.399 WLWV School Board: By level. 1078 02:23:00.933 --> 02:23:09.300 WLWV School Board: It's like 37 square feet for primary. It goes up to 46.2 47.2 for high school. 1079 02:23:10.150 --> 02:23:24.510 WLWV School Board: But we there are 2 different ways to calculate capacity. One is by the square footage, the other is simply a mathematical 25 students per classroom period. It's up to the principal to balance 1080 02:23:24.700 --> 02:23:33.389 WLWV School Board: 5th grade, maybe at a little higher than kindergarten. And so the the capacity is based on that 1081 02:23:33.490 --> 02:23:44.360 WLWV School Board: as far as how a school total capacity should it be loaded at 70, 80 or 90% or 100%? 1082 02:23:45.011 --> 02:23:56.260 WLWV School Board: Of course, more students, it makes a student or makes a school fuller, but we've even had overcapacity where we've had portables. 1083 02:23:56.829 --> 02:24:05.099 WLWV School Board: That's not fun, but it a school can certainly handle it. I think we would say that 1084 02:24:05.520 --> 02:24:10.049 WLWV School Board: we are prepared to take any school to its capacity. 1085 02:24:10.420 --> 02:24:21.420 WLWV School Board: so I don't know if that addresses your question directly. I think that's a little subjective for all principals or teachers or parents. 1086 02:24:21.610 --> 02:24:28.590 WLWV School Board: but from a capacity standpoint, that's the reason you have a full capacity. 1087 02:24:32.500 --> 02:24:37.199 WLWV School Board: you know I would just, you know, just add that I think everyone likes it to just 1088 02:24:37.580 --> 02:25:02.729 WLWV School Board: look exactly perfect, you know. Is there a classroom in a class at every classroom, because when you have a couple of empty classrooms we get comments of, you know, how can we have these empty classrooms, you know, and and then, when there's too many, there's we don't have enough classrooms, and but we just can't always predict and have the exact number. So there is that flex space in there. One of the places we've done, that 1089 02:25:02.890 --> 02:25:26.000 WLWV School Board: is, and I mentioned Bolton having that history of being the preschool hub. There was a time. Then, when every primary school did then open their own preschool, as Bolton became more of A. K. 5, and we all, we opened preschool at every school other than the 2 dual language schools, Trillium and Lowry, which we wanted to leave space as that program grew. 1090 02:25:26.670 --> 02:25:41.930 WLWV School Board: So factored in this capacity is each school having a preschool classroom, and that's always given us a buffer of one extra classroom, because preschool is not mandatory, and there was times when Willamette couldn't have a preschool 1091 02:25:42.660 --> 02:25:50.650 WLWV School Board: but the other schools could. And now, of course, Willamette has space. So that's that's factored in here in terms of 1092 02:25:51.230 --> 02:26:17.060 WLWV School Board: that 90%. So I just wanted to add that component, I would like to add one more thing. Space utilization is a factor at high schools and middle schools, that because there are prep periods for teachers. Ideally, you would like you would not want your space utilization to exceed like 85% 1093 02:26:17.526 --> 02:26:24.129 WLWV School Board: if you're up at a hundred percent. That means every classroom is being used for teaching every period. 1094 02:26:24.260 --> 02:26:29.170 WLWV School Board: and that gives no time for the teachers to have their prep. Period. 1095 02:26:29.340 --> 02:26:36.250 WLWV School Board: So that may be, the number that you're looking at is the space utilization at secondary schools. 1096 02:26:36.670 --> 02:26:41.090 WLWV School Board: But at primary it. It goes right up to 100%. 1097 02:26:45.010 --> 02:26:47.925 WLWV School Board: I have a follow up question on that. 1098 02:26:49.320 --> 02:27:01.670 WLWV School Board: So I'm a little bit confused. Between large class sizes being negative because they affect 1099 02:27:01.800 --> 02:27:06.129 WLWV School Board: education and taking schools to capacity. 1100 02:27:06.320 --> 02:27:09.869 WLWV School Board: Could you talk to me about that? Because to me 1101 02:27:11.050 --> 02:27:19.459 WLWV School Board: it's just a little confusing. So talk to me about the difference between taking a school to capacity versus a large class size. 1102 02:27:21.880 --> 02:27:49.139 WLWV School Board: Yeah. So I think when we have this range of class size that we talk about with the community or with our Teacher association. And we have that that range that we're thinking about smaller grades and smaller sizes in the younger grades. And then, yeah, and then a little bit larger in the upper grades that we're willing to go. We hear from our community. I know every year annually, when we ask about the budget, and we do a survey 1103 02:27:49.320 --> 02:27:50.750 WLWV School Board: class. Size 1104 02:27:50.910 --> 02:28:01.350 WLWV School Board: is the number one priority. It comes back number one in every survey. So there is this factor where parents are thinking about their students experience all day long. 1105 02:28:01.510 --> 02:28:05.828 WLWV School Board: And how many students do they feel in that classroom? 1106 02:28:06.540 --> 02:28:34.389 WLWV School Board: begins to impact the access to the teacher, or how many desks are in the space. And so we work really hard to keep it on the lower range. And we think about 19 to 21 in grades, 1, 2 21 to 23, maybe grades, 2, 3, and then, you know, 2425 in the in grades. 4, 5. Am I getting that right, David? 1107 02:28:35.340 --> 02:29:00.009 WLWV School Board: And so that's that's been the range that we've worked with, knowing that somebody might say, Wait a minute. My child's in a class of 28 this year that can happen, you know, twins move in. Something happens in a school, and that one year they might be an anomaly. They also might say, my kindergarten happen to have 17 this year, you know, it could be on the other end, too. But we really try and work with that average. So that's what we mean by 1108 02:29:00.510 --> 02:29:10.619 WLWV School Board: class size. And what we hear from the community is a priority. And what we work with and with our staff, and where we put our resources to keep class size lower? 1109 02:29:12.500 --> 02:29:22.720 WLWV School Board: I think the second part was what happens to capacity in a school. That's how many classrooms are in a school, and how how many of them are occupied 1110 02:29:23.110 --> 02:29:24.400 WLWV School Board: by a class. 1111 02:29:25.050 --> 02:29:30.499 WLWV School Board: So you know, we we aim at about that 25 1112 02:29:30.997 --> 02:29:41.820 WLWV School Board: but there might be some school districts that say we have a larger capacity. We would have a larger capacity for that same building. Because we're okay, putting 30 students in a classroom. 1113 02:29:42.640 --> 02:29:55.040 WLWV School Board: So you could make the capacity of a school larger on paper by saying, we're okay, putting 30, 35 students in a classroom. Therefore this school has more capacity. 1114 02:29:55.450 --> 02:29:58.079 WLWV School Board: And that was, I think, your question to pat is what 1115 02:29:58.190 --> 02:30:03.200 WLWV School Board: what? Or director sloop's question, what calculation did you use? 1116 02:30:03.380 --> 02:30:06.800 WLWV School Board: So it's not only square footage, but we're also thinking about 1117 02:30:07.090 --> 02:30:10.819 WLWV School Board: that range of how many students per classroom 1118 02:30:11.000 --> 02:30:15.500 WLWV School Board: do do we work with in terms of that experience for that student? 1119 02:30:16.960 --> 02:30:18.760 WLWV School Board: Am I getting closer to 1120 02:30:19.060 --> 02:30:40.399 WLWV School Board: what your question, Director Vidal, you were saying? I'm trying to think about reconciling capacity, you know, of school and class size. Yeah, I just noticed, though, when we were in a couple of the schools like, well, all 3 schools, Cedar, Oak, Stafford, and Bolton. They are older schools with larger classrooms than, let's say, where my son went. Lowry. Primary 1121 02:30:40.862 --> 02:30:53.249 WLWV School Board: so they have more square footage in their classrooms than the the newer schools. So that's when we talk about square footage. They're going to have more square footage. So 1122 02:30:53.760 --> 02:30:55.820 WLWV School Board: yeah, you answered my question. 1123 02:30:55.970 --> 02:30:58.447 WLWV School Board: Yeah, some of the older classrooms. 1124 02:30:59.800 --> 02:31:01.690 WLWV School Board: may have some of that. Yeah. 1125 02:31:14.010 --> 02:31:19.619 WLWV School Board: Could I address the comment about? We're not thinking outside the box as a school district. 1126 02:31:22.820 --> 02:31:24.050 WLWV School Board: You know, when 1127 02:31:24.850 --> 02:31:32.080 WLWV School Board: When Covid happened, and we we all across Oregon experienced that decline in enrollment. 1128 02:31:32.680 --> 02:31:37.310 WLWV School Board: I think the furthest thing from anybody's mind was that the decline would stay that way. 1129 02:31:37.560 --> 02:31:47.399 WLWV School Board: and that's why everybody kept all their schools open, kept all their staff, hired resources in place expecting 1130 02:31:47.870 --> 02:31:49.180 WLWV School Board: that return. 1131 02:31:49.860 --> 02:32:00.009 WLWV School Board: And when it didn't happen after the 1st year, there was a wondering of Is it because of our ab hybrid, you know. Is it still some nervousness about return to school, given 1132 02:32:00.120 --> 02:32:10.269 WLWV School Board: pandemic, and not knowing if you know, how, does a pandemic work? And will I still send my child back to a building with a lot of people in it. 1133 02:32:11.320 --> 02:32:13.760 WLWV School Board: So I think it really was around that 1134 02:32:13.950 --> 02:32:18.910 WLWV School Board: second, 3rd year, you know, coming out that there was this realization, this is 1135 02:32:19.320 --> 02:32:25.839 WLWV School Board: not coming, you know we're not in that uptick across Oregon, nationally same trend. 1136 02:32:26.350 --> 02:32:37.980 WLWV School Board: and that this may be the new enrollment norm for school districts. This is the this is the new level, and then you compare your enrollment, you know, from that new level 1137 02:32:38.150 --> 02:32:42.909 WLWV School Board: immediately coming out, we did ask ourselves, How do we 1138 02:32:43.060 --> 02:32:48.690 WLWV School Board: tell our story so that families 1 1st of all, it was, how do we tell our story that we're safe. 1139 02:32:49.200 --> 02:32:51.599 WLWV School Board: that we are thinking about protocols. 1140 02:32:51.890 --> 02:32:56.440 WLWV School Board: We got that messaging out as much as we could in the media 1141 02:32:56.580 --> 02:33:11.159 WLWV School Board: to families asking families to tell other families safe, you know, safe to come back to school. So that was the 1st type of thinking outside the box, you know. How do we get that message out? 1142 02:33:12.800 --> 02:33:17.400 WLWV School Board: But then also reassuring families that we would continue the programs 1143 02:33:17.690 --> 02:33:20.410 WLWV School Board: that they could see in our school district. 1144 02:33:20.930 --> 02:33:25.780 WLWV School Board: We went ahead. Director sloop. You mentioned our Cte pathways. 1145 02:33:25.920 --> 02:33:27.879 WLWV School Board: It would have been very tempting 1146 02:33:28.160 --> 02:33:43.730 WLWV School Board: to not move forward with that work at our high school to kind of pull back with the unknown. But we wanted to continue with with our Cte programming and pathways. We knew that was a draw for high school students especially. 1147 02:33:43.890 --> 02:33:49.100 WLWV School Board: We brought back as quickly as we could around our athletics and co-curricular. 1148 02:33:49.370 --> 02:33:57.149 WLWV School Board: I think you'll remember the news. It was even sooner than some other school districts was our return to those activities. 1149 02:34:01.280 --> 02:34:08.770 WLWV School Board: We weren't able to bring preschool classes back right away, because when we 1150 02:34:10.700 --> 02:34:26.249 WLWV School Board: surveyed we heard that families were reluctant to send their younger children so so close to the pandemic, but as soon as we could we reopened our preschools. The numbers have not been the same as they were before. 1151 02:34:26.580 --> 02:34:29.030 WLWV School Board: but we went ahead. Even when we 1152 02:34:29.310 --> 02:34:33.539 WLWV School Board: lost financially. In doing that we went ahead and 1153 02:34:33.810 --> 02:34:40.339 WLWV School Board: offered preschool at every school, and then waited to see who would enroll. So we were aggressive with that 1154 02:34:40.590 --> 02:34:46.120 WLWV School Board: and hired teachers, and even when classes were very small to make that available. 1155 02:34:47.890 --> 02:34:52.139 WLWV School Board: we went ahead and opened the Chinese dual language program. 1156 02:34:52.580 --> 02:34:58.950 WLWV School Board: even though Covid had happened and we had dropped 700 students. 1157 02:34:59.120 --> 02:35:02.909 WLWV School Board: We thought, maybe this is the time to 1158 02:35:03.400 --> 02:35:08.799 WLWV School Board: gain interest. Talk about our school district, be innovative and start that program. 1159 02:35:08.960 --> 02:35:22.690 WLWV School Board: We placed it at Bolton for a reason. First, st it was a school very deeply committed with its World language program to Chinese. Several of the teachers had gone with me to China to visit our sister schools, and had a very deep commitment. 1160 02:35:23.230 --> 02:35:25.390 WLWV School Board: so it made an ideal location. 1161 02:35:25.770 --> 02:35:34.819 WLWV School Board: But I would say. You know, when there was a lot of signs of kind, of not starting something new given where we were with enrollment. We went ahead 1162 02:35:35.000 --> 02:35:45.360 WLWV School Board: and pushed forward with that dual language program and started the Chinese dual language program to invite families back, maybe even invite families who 1163 02:35:45.770 --> 02:35:50.829 WLWV School Board: hadn't started in the school district. It's also open to families outside the school district. 1164 02:35:52.710 --> 02:36:08.269 WLWV School Board: Couple years ago I approached the District School Board and said we'd like the staff would like to request that you reopen interdistrict transfers as a way of accommodating staff, who'd like to work in the district, and would like to bring their children 1165 02:36:08.460 --> 02:36:17.300 WLWV School Board: as well as other families who are inquiring about coming to our school district. If you recall, we had closed prior to the pandemic. 1166 02:36:17.420 --> 02:36:21.039 WLWV School Board: and then all the school districts kind of were in a 1167 02:36:21.970 --> 02:36:24.830 WLWV School Board: just a status quo period of time. 1168 02:36:25.150 --> 02:36:30.660 WLWV School Board: But then I proposed to the board. I think it's time that we open the district 1169 02:36:30.790 --> 02:36:45.339 WLWV School Board: and invite people to come. Now, we're not allowed to use public funds to recruit families or to advertise for families outside the district. But we can do these types of things that put us in the news 1170 02:36:45.560 --> 02:36:47.639 WLWV School Board: and get our story out there. 1171 02:36:47.950 --> 02:36:56.369 WLWV School Board: The other thing we did about 2 years ago is, we have a in our Communications department, which is very small. It's a staff of one. 1172 02:36:56.770 --> 02:37:12.510 WLWV School Board: We actually were able to bring through some other funds a person working on the website as well as a videographer. So if you've seen these 2 min videos that highlight things happening at schools and get them out there, we know that 1173 02:37:12.870 --> 02:37:22.449 WLWV School Board: our society is much more inclined to watch a Tiktok video or something short on Youtube than often read a long narrative describing programs. 1174 02:37:22.740 --> 02:37:30.070 WLWV School Board: So our mandate to the staff member was every week make a video about exciting things happening in our district. 1175 02:37:30.270 --> 02:37:36.649 WLWV School Board: Get it out there, get it out to the news media get it out to our schools, people will circulate it, which they have. 1176 02:37:37.380 --> 02:37:41.399 WLWV School Board: So I would say in the last few years we have 1177 02:37:41.530 --> 02:37:44.909 WLWV School Board: with that declining enrollment. Once we realized it wasn't coming back. 1178 02:37:45.090 --> 02:37:52.590 WLWV School Board: we have explored within our financial means. What are the things that we can do to tell our story 1179 02:37:52.880 --> 02:37:57.210 WLWV School Board: to get it out there in the news media. We've done a lot more with 1180 02:37:57.570 --> 02:38:01.950 WLWV School Board: Pamplin around, sending them stories or asking them to come out 1181 02:38:02.250 --> 02:38:06.588 WLWV School Board: and look at activities which they have increased, that 1182 02:38:07.460 --> 02:38:24.840 WLWV School Board: they have increased their education stories and then also moving forward with programs that give us the opportunity to tell community and neighboring community. And also maybe those who hadn't thought about coming to public school, about all the programs that their children can be a part of. 1183 02:38:25.320 --> 02:38:35.719 WLWV School Board: So I just want to share. Those are things we've intentionally put forward, even when it was tempting to maybe just hunker down, or just to stay status quo. 1184 02:38:35.860 --> 02:38:47.649 WLWV School Board: We've pushed forward a lot of these programs at our high school. We started the dual language program in Chinese. We've brought back interdistrict transfers. We have brought back preschool and work to expand it. 1185 02:38:49.500 --> 02:38:53.510 WLWV School Board: And then also showcasing our school district whenever we can. 1186 02:38:54.090 --> 02:39:06.040 WLWV School Board: Is there more we can do? There's always more we can do, and hoping that families will will join us in those efforts, and we'll continue to explore those and continue to advertise so. 1187 02:39:06.570 --> 02:39:12.939 WLWV School Board: And we're we're open to any suggestions the Board has on ways we can think outside the box more. 1188 02:39:18.540 --> 02:39:19.570 WLWV School Board: Anyone else. 1189 02:39:21.621 --> 02:39:38.639 WLWV School Board: In the numbers that you sent us for the 2025, 2026 school year for Bolton. You had indicated that we would. The projection is 190 to 195 students and 6 to 7 teachers. And if I compare that to page 34, 1190 02:39:40.670 --> 02:39:43.229 WLWV School Board: so does that mean that we would have 1191 02:39:43.910 --> 02:39:46.490 WLWV School Board: that would bring us down to 1192 02:39:46.650 --> 02:39:51.100 WLWV School Board: 6 to 7 classroom teachers, and then can we assume that the other 1193 02:39:51.700 --> 02:39:55.649 WLWV School Board: license staff and office team would remain the same 1194 02:39:56.290 --> 02:39:59.500 WLWV School Board: in terms of if we think about the number of adults in the building. 1195 02:40:00.640 --> 02:40:03.790 WLWV School Board: And so and and would that take us down to one grade? 1196 02:40:03.900 --> 02:40:08.249 WLWV School Board: One class per grade for kindergarten through 5. 1197 02:40:08.450 --> 02:40:12.300 WLWV School Board: Yeah, well, it's unclear at this point, you know. But 1198 02:40:12.440 --> 02:40:15.840 WLWV School Board: I just looked at enrollment again. Today I kind of 1199 02:40:16.120 --> 02:40:23.429 WLWV School Board: pulled the latest enrollment figures rolled everything up made the Assumption kindergarten would be the same size this year 1200 02:40:23.610 --> 02:40:30.169 WLWV School Board: or next year as it is this year, just as a starting point, and then looked at. You know, how could we. 1201 02:40:30.920 --> 02:40:41.120 WLWV School Board: staff Milton, in those numbers? Meeting the staffing scenarios which are proposed in the Budget conversation last board meeting, and it 1202 02:40:41.240 --> 02:40:57.429 WLWV School Board: it does roughly equal. If, for example, dual language stays there about 5 classroom teachers and of non dual language, with another 2 dual language teachers splitting the load of the the 4 classes. So each taking 1203 02:40:57.890 --> 02:41:00.420 WLWV School Board: one class for half the day. 1204 02:41:01.130 --> 02:41:05.330 WLWV School Board: So a total of 7 teachers those 1205 02:41:05.480 --> 02:41:16.049 WLWV School Board: I'm still scratching my head a little bit, but I know we've got some time to be creative to think about how we organize that number of teachers into class sizes that feel 1206 02:41:16.840 --> 02:41:21.000 WLWV School Board: sustainable, you know, like that would mean. 1207 02:41:21.690 --> 02:41:28.939 WLWV School Board: you know, for example, just in this, the best scenario I can figure out at this point would be, you know, a mixed age, k. 1 1208 02:41:29.900 --> 02:41:31.769 WLWV School Board: with 28 students in it. 1209 02:41:32.750 --> 02:41:40.409 WLWV School Board: probably a mixed stage 2, 3, because you've got 21 second graders and 29 second graders. So looking at 26, ish. 1210 02:41:40.800 --> 02:41:48.499 WLWV School Board: 2526. But then 4th and 5th grade is tricky because we we graduate this year we had a 5th grade of 53 1211 02:41:49.980 --> 02:41:51.819 WLWV School Board: that is the largest 1212 02:41:52.656 --> 02:42:06.150 WLWV School Board: class, largest grade. They'll move on to middle school, and then you end up with a 4th grade of 33, and a 5th grade of 33. And so, you know, I'm very uncomfortable with class sizes of 33. If you add 1213 02:42:06.410 --> 02:42:08.969 WLWV School Board: one staff member to bring it up to 5 1214 02:42:09.080 --> 02:42:17.960 WLWV School Board: non dual language teachers. Then you bring that down to 22, which is another unsustainable level. And so, you know, we've got time to plan. And we're always 1215 02:42:18.410 --> 02:42:31.949 WLWV School Board: trying to be strategic. And we've been really creative. But it's a really good representation of the challenge ahead of us when the numbers fluctuate either too high or too low, with the addition or subtraction of one staff member. 1216 02:42:32.120 --> 02:42:41.770 WLWV School Board: I want to be really clear. That's nothing but just trying to figure it out with those numbers. We're not proposing staffing at this time. We're just trying to plan ahead 1217 02:42:56.670 --> 02:42:58.619 WLWV School Board: anything else on anyone's heart. 1218 02:42:59.240 --> 02:43:00.160 WLWV School Board: Mind 1219 02:43:04.090 --> 02:43:14.880 WLWV School Board: anything from Dr. Ludwig. Anything remaining for you, Pat? 1220 02:43:20.180 --> 02:43:21.360 WLWV School Board: Oh, I'll wait 1221 02:43:32.070 --> 02:43:33.000 WLWV School Board: So 1222 02:43:35.310 --> 02:43:43.470 WLWV School Board: we're we're talking about a Bolton primary that's 200 and and possibly even less. And I just want to go on record as saying, that's too small. 1223 02:43:43.630 --> 02:43:49.909 WLWV School Board: Right? That's why I've been talking about boundaries that's too small for exactly the reasons you're you're talking about. 1224 02:43:51.490 --> 02:43:57.360 WLWV School Board: And I mean, I think that's worth saying out loud. I think that's too small, and 1225 02:43:59.620 --> 02:44:01.499 WLWV School Board: we have tough choices to make. But 1226 02:44:02.440 --> 02:44:04.600 WLWV School Board: I do want to ask one budget. 1227 02:44:05.320 --> 02:44:09.699 WLWV School Board: Well, it's sort of a two-part budget question. So, Dr. Ludwig, if you could. 1228 02:44:09.950 --> 02:44:16.779 WLWV School Board: So education budget is always a moving target. 1229 02:44:17.020 --> 02:44:34.619 WLWV School Board: It's always challenging. The States are floating numbers. We obviously have to have a budget that you're going to present in may you have no choice but to do that, and we will not have money then, like we won't have a firm figure, we'll have a better idea. But that target always moves. You have suggested that. 1230 02:44:36.490 --> 02:44:41.100 WLWV School Board: A rough split between teaching and non-teaching 1231 02:44:41.310 --> 02:44:46.080 WLWV School Board: a little bit more to the non-teaching, but a rough split right do I have that right 1232 02:44:46.290 --> 02:44:50.160 WLWV School Board: of the of the roughly 15 million that needs to be saved. So 1233 02:44:50.710 --> 02:44:54.280 WLWV School Board: I think I heard said that if 1234 02:44:54.700 --> 02:45:02.210 WLWV School Board: we were to get more money than we expect you would. First, st that would 1st go toward the teaching positions. Is that correct? 1235 02:45:02.870 --> 02:45:06.729 WLWV School Board: Okay, I just wanted to make sure. I heard that because I know there are. 1236 02:45:07.665 --> 02:45:29.150 WLWV School Board: I know there's work, and I want to thank Directors Vidal and sloop for their current work legislatively. And and the community, because I've heard from many community members who want to be involved in that as well to try to help Salem think about that. So if we were to get more money. I understand that I know that we have a possibly reinvigorated 1237 02:45:29.270 --> 02:45:30.410 WLWV School Board: foundation. 1238 02:45:31.010 --> 02:45:36.020 WLWV School Board: So in in any, anyway, I just wanted to confirm that tonight from you. 1239 02:45:37.620 --> 02:45:43.180 WLWV School Board: Yeah, I mean, that's that's always the priority. And whenever we've had you know. 1240 02:45:43.560 --> 02:45:58.560 WLWV School Board: more funds in our ending fund balance, or then, you know, we've we've gone back and said yes to more, you know, teaching positions to to bring down class size. I will say another priority would also be those support staff who work directly 1241 02:45:58.790 --> 02:46:21.230 WLWV School Board: with classroom teachers. So they're in that first, st they're in that district wide category. So when you think about a learning specialist who teaches special education or an eld teacher, someone who doesn't have the classroom with the students but is is responsible for direct instruction, intervention, special education, language development. 1242 02:46:21.958 --> 02:46:26.429 WLWV School Board: Otpt, they're actually in that district. Wide category. 1243 02:46:26.800 --> 02:46:34.679 WLWV School Board: So you know, if funding comes around special education, we'd have to. 1244 02:46:35.180 --> 02:46:38.020 WLWV School Board: You know, I don't know what the legislation would look like. 1245 02:46:38.240 --> 02:46:46.150 WLWV School Board: but often legislation comes with requirements, and so sometimes we want to put it somewhere else. But the legislation tells us we have to 1246 02:46:46.290 --> 02:46:55.140 WLWV School Board: designated here or there. So learning specialists, or those who deliver specially designed instruction 1247 02:46:55.340 --> 02:47:00.000 WLWV School Board: may not always be classroom teachers. Right? They might be in that other category. 1248 02:47:00.150 --> 02:47:09.960 WLWV School Board: So, depending on where the funding comes from, we may want to put it to reduce class size, and we may not be allowed to. Okay, I just wanted that clear. Thank you. That that helps. Yeah. 1249 02:47:11.140 --> 02:47:15.870 WLWV School Board: And I, I would add that, you know, last year, with our 10 million dollars reduction. 1250 02:47:16.260 --> 02:47:23.439 WLWV School Board: The majority of that did go to district wide positions, 8.5 million of that. 1251 02:47:23.590 --> 02:47:31.439 WLWV School Board: So we did a lot of reducing and you know as much of it where people say 1252 02:47:31.620 --> 02:47:46.790 WLWV School Board: I didn't see it, you know, and that was the whole point is, how could we reduce so that it didn't impact the day-to-day experience of a student. So when families say I, you know, I didn't see that reduction, you know, I don't think the district made any. We? We made a lot 1253 02:47:47.434 --> 02:47:54.319 WLWV School Board: but we prioritized not putting it, you know, in that some of those direct places for students there was some 1254 02:47:54.720 --> 02:47:58.160 WLWV School Board: the point, the librarians going from 1.0 to point 5. 1255 02:47:58.270 --> 02:48:02.470 WLWV School Board: That was very visible, but a lot of other positions that weren't 1256 02:48:02.660 --> 02:48:07.349 WLWV School Board: because we already trimmed 8.5 million in district wide. 1257 02:48:07.720 --> 02:48:13.710 WLWV School Board: finding another 7.5 million in a district. Our size is challenging. 1258 02:48:13.810 --> 02:48:18.369 WLWV School Board: But we've committed to that regardless what happens tonight. 1259 02:48:18.937 --> 02:48:28.759 WLWV School Board: We wanted to make make clear that we want to keep as much of the reduction away from the classroom experience as possible in terms of 1260 02:48:29.406 --> 02:48:30.320 WLWV School Board: class size. 1261 02:48:41.860 --> 02:48:46.200 WLWV School Board: Kelly, look like you got something I am. 1262 02:48:56.500 --> 02:48:59.820 WLWV School Board: Does anyone else have anything? 1263 02:49:00.840 --> 02:49:01.780 WLWV School Board: So we'll wait. 1264 02:49:03.050 --> 02:49:04.130 WLWV School Board: You. Okay. 1265 02:49:06.270 --> 02:49:14.490 WLWV School Board: So were you gonna say, so, she's good at this point 1266 02:49:15.440 --> 02:49:17.609 WLWV School Board: for me. I'm ready for a motion. 1267 02:49:20.210 --> 02:49:27.690 WLWV School Board: And if you all would like, I don't mind making the motion. It is not traditional, but 1268 02:49:31.560 --> 02:49:33.750 WLWV School Board: right you can. It doesn't matter to me. 1269 02:49:36.610 --> 02:49:42.910 WLWV School Board: so what I'll do is I'll go ahead and make the motion. That, or I'll move 1270 02:49:43.550 --> 02:49:47.259 WLWV School Board: that we do not consolidate any of the 3 small primary schools 1271 02:49:47.420 --> 02:49:52.060 WLWV School Board: for 2,02526, school year, or the following year 1272 02:49:57.030 --> 02:49:58.090 WLWV School Board: a second. 1273 02:50:00.820 --> 02:50:03.269 WLWV School Board: So now we can have discussion 1274 02:50:04.770 --> 02:50:07.990 WLWV School Board: around not closing any of the 3 schools. 1275 02:50:09.650 --> 02:50:14.350 WLWV School Board: Is there any topic or discussion for that? 1276 02:50:21.610 --> 02:50:23.320 WLWV School Board: Okay, I'll just jump in. 1277 02:50:24.460 --> 02:50:37.260 WLWV School Board: I think that I'm going to be voting in favor of this because of the community sentiment. 1278 02:50:37.570 --> 02:50:42.049 WLWV School Board: the outpouring of community sentiment surrounding this. 1279 02:50:42.350 --> 02:50:47.540 WLWV School Board: the process, the brevity of the process, really concerns me. 1280 02:50:48.260 --> 02:50:58.099 WLWV School Board: July 15th was when the long range planning committee 1st met regarding this. And now it's January 27, th and we're making this decision. 1281 02:50:58.803 --> 02:51:08.009 WLWV School Board: I feel like it's too quick. I feel like we haven't looked at. The 3rd reason why I'm voting for this is alternative solutions. 1282 02:51:08.200 --> 02:51:16.610 WLWV School Board: I don't think we have looked at that clearly enough. So I those are the 3 reasons. 1283 02:51:17.290 --> 02:51:18.410 WLWV School Board: and that's it. 1284 02:51:21.840 --> 02:51:22.800 WLWV School Board: Anyone else. 1285 02:51:27.710 --> 02:51:31.139 WLWV School Board: So as a director and a public servant 1286 02:51:32.530 --> 02:51:43.409 WLWV School Board: I have the duty to act on the board governance, and that is the act of transforming the needs, wishes, and desires of the community into goals 1287 02:51:43.810 --> 02:51:45.490 WLWV School Board: and policies. 1288 02:51:47.960 --> 02:51:51.819 WLWV School Board: That direct the schools in the community. 1289 02:51:52.730 --> 02:51:58.259 WLWV School Board: My decision process also took into consideration the community input 1290 02:51:58.670 --> 02:52:02.799 WLWV School Board: and the community support and trust for future bonds 1291 02:52:03.860 --> 02:52:11.420 WLWV School Board: and the uniqueness of these small schools have in our community. I know there's some 1292 02:52:12.780 --> 02:52:21.289 WLWV School Board: some students with special needs that have been widely accepted, and they have a strong sense of belonging. 1293 02:52:21.420 --> 02:52:22.770 WLWV School Board: and because I have a 1294 02:52:24.710 --> 02:52:40.420 WLWV School Board: partial, just a heart for special education, these schools are doing it right, and they feel included, and they feel a sense of confidence and have friends, and they're thriving. And these are all 3 high performing schools in our district. 1295 02:52:40.800 --> 02:52:48.860 WLWV School Board: and I just hope that we can focus on highlighting that and increasing our enrollment, but also offering solutions. 1296 02:52:49.010 --> 02:52:56.619 WLWV School Board: collaborative collaborating with the community on how we can address our budget shortfalls, and that would be 1297 02:52:58.340 --> 02:53:09.890 WLWV School Board: hopefully, with a legislative advocacy. Even Governor Kotec wants to expand the career pathway in the high schools, so there could be some additional funding with that as well. 1298 02:53:17.180 --> 02:53:21.740 WLWV School Board: So I guess I will be voting in favor of not consolidating any schools. 1299 02:53:26.820 --> 02:53:38.200 WLWV School Board: Yeah, I'll also support the motion to not. I'll vote yes, for the motion to not consolidate schools where I'm struggling is that I don't want to kick a can down the road. 1300 02:53:38.870 --> 02:53:45.999 WLWV School Board: and I don't want to not make a hard decision if it's the right decision to make, and I don't, so I don't. I don't want that to be the case. 1301 02:53:47.200 --> 02:53:53.960 WLWV School Board: If I believed if I if I if I had stronger belief that 1302 02:53:54.120 --> 02:53:57.950 WLWV School Board: 4, 25 was a good target size for our schools. 1303 02:53:59.440 --> 02:54:04.669 WLWV School Board: If I was there, then I would support this. 1304 02:54:05.451 --> 02:54:11.590 WLWV School Board: I I don't. I don't know that well enough. I wonder what would have happened if 1305 02:54:13.380 --> 02:54:19.350 WLWV School Board: In August we had said to the community. 1306 02:54:19.600 --> 02:54:25.100 WLWV School Board: 4, 25 is the right number. We're going to close the school. Let's go. 1307 02:54:25.360 --> 02:54:29.419 WLWV School Board: you know I I don't. I don't know how that would have gone. 1308 02:54:31.270 --> 02:54:36.560 WLWV School Board: I'm I'm struggling with if if our and 1309 02:54:36.910 --> 02:54:41.820 WLWV School Board: if our enrollment does not increase and we get farther down the road 1310 02:54:42.030 --> 02:54:52.299 WLWV School Board: I'm struggling with how we revisit this. And obviously we'll talk about a process, and we'll talk about whether or not we want to recommend a process. We may not be here for that. 1311 02:54:52.470 --> 02:54:53.140 WLWV School Board: But, 1312 02:54:57.890 --> 02:55:01.009 WLWV School Board: We have some good information about what 1313 02:55:01.690 --> 02:55:09.830 WLWV School Board: what 450 students would look like in a school, and in some ways, as I had a good conversation with Dr. Prior about that 1314 02:55:10.030 --> 02:55:13.270 WLWV School Board: in some ways. That's a really good scheduling situation. 1315 02:55:13.630 --> 02:55:19.529 WLWV School Board: and and can and you can have really good schools there 1316 02:55:19.940 --> 02:55:24.369 WLWV School Board: given. How successful some of our smaller schools are. Right. Now. 1317 02:55:24.750 --> 02:55:31.760 WLWV School Board: I worry about that bump to bigger schools. Given how successful the smaller schools are right now. 1318 02:55:32.130 --> 02:55:32.840 WLWV School Board: So 1319 02:55:33.670 --> 02:55:45.829 WLWV School Board: I'm interested in continuing this, continuing this discussion about how we can do this if we need to do this in the future. I want to set up future boards and leaders for how to do this 1320 02:55:46.520 --> 02:55:49.529 WLWV School Board: in a way that makes sense and works for everybody. 1321 02:55:49.870 --> 02:56:08.230 WLWV School Board: But for the moment I'm going to vote as as you mentioned, I also want to just take a moment to say for any community member who loves their school. The district leadership is part of that. So I know there's been some sense that the district, the district, the district. If they would only do this, you're doing an awful lot. Well. 1322 02:56:08.801 --> 02:56:13.180 WLWV School Board: right now, if we have schools that are so beloved, so I'll stop. With that 1323 02:56:18.750 --> 02:56:24.839 WLWV School Board: I'll also support this. But I will caution that we are going to be 1324 02:56:25.000 --> 02:56:38.159 WLWV School Board: back in this exact same financial situation a year from now with our budget. And 1.4 5 is going to look appealing. And so 1325 02:56:38.310 --> 02:56:45.030 WLWV School Board: I would implore that as a board that we figure out 1326 02:56:45.250 --> 02:56:55.689 WLWV School Board: how to more successfully work with our community to have this conversation. I think we need to do a retro on this entire small schools process. 1327 02:56:56.313 --> 02:57:09.379 WLWV School Board: And I think we need to figure out how to engage the full community on what it means to look at our boundaries and some of the things that our community has raised to us. Because 1328 02:57:09.520 --> 02:57:15.609 WLWV School Board: it is, it's not acceptable to have schools that are so widely 1329 02:57:16.160 --> 02:57:19.310 WLWV School Board: different in the number of students that we have. 1330 02:57:20.720 --> 02:57:30.650 WLWV School Board: And again, sacrificing one small school to solve our budget challenges is not appropriate. 1331 02:57:30.720 --> 02:57:52.979 WLWV School Board: and I do worry, though, about what the community is going to say to us when our budget comes out and they see the class sizes that we are going to have in that budget. And I think as a board, we need to be ready to react because they are not going to be happy, and I really hope that the parents in this auditorium are ready 1332 02:57:53.340 --> 02:57:58.959 WLWV School Board: to honestly say out to the community that 1333 02:57:59.717 --> 02:58:03.239 WLWV School Board: the budget is a reflection of 1334 02:58:03.744 --> 02:58:15.909 WLWV School Board: the commitment to students. Because, honestly, that is what we're voting on, because we're going to get a lot of pushback for the class sizes that we're going to fund in our budget. People are not going to be happy. 1335 02:58:16.331 --> 02:58:32.639 WLWV School Board: But we have heard you, and we value you, and we value what you've said about how important your schools are. And we've heard you. So but we're going to be right back where we are budget wise, and we need to be ready for that. And we need to reflect on that for sure. 1336 02:58:34.850 --> 02:58:37.049 WLWV School Board: All right, Director Douglas cast a vote. 1337 02:58:37.460 --> 02:58:38.250 WLWV School Board: Oh, wait! 1338 02:58:40.735 --> 02:58:56.720 WLWV School Board: I just want to say again to the board. You know. Thank you for your extraordinary amount of time to this process. I I know it was briefer than anyone would want, and some of that was outside of our control. Because we have 1339 02:58:57.000 --> 02:59:07.369 WLWV School Board: a long range plan that you asked to be updated, and the Long Range planning committee had your March spring, you know, on the schedule, and needed to know what direction it needed from the board. 1340 02:59:07.550 --> 02:59:15.869 WLWV School Board: and a potential capital bond. So maybe unlike other school districts, there were some some factors there that that brought it forward. 1341 02:59:17.230 --> 02:59:26.360 WLWV School Board: but I want to thank you for your integrity with the process for the extraordinary amount of time, listening to the community, asking great questions of the staff to bring you information. 1342 02:59:26.640 --> 02:59:32.280 WLWV School Board: and again, allowing us the opportunity, the 1343 02:59:32.520 --> 02:59:41.899 WLWV School Board: allowing us to not have to make a recommendation that was really helpful for us as staff, to be able to stay open to all of our schools and 1344 02:59:42.090 --> 03:00:02.419 WLWV School Board: all of our staff, in the sense that you were really going to carry the load with this, and that we could focus on supporting schools and being in classrooms and not being inundated with questions about what are you going to decide? And I know that shouldering more of that decision, the 5 of you, and what that felt for you for the last few months. But I appreciate 1345 03:00:02.940 --> 03:00:10.200 WLWV School Board: what that allowed our school principals to be able to focus on, and the rest of us as district leaders to be able to do the work. 1346 03:00:11.860 --> 03:00:19.220 WLWV School Board: One of the parents sitting in the audience. I'm not sure if she's still here. It had a public comment. One of our meetings around 1347 03:00:20.940 --> 03:00:27.859 WLWV School Board: commending the advocacy that director, sloop, and Director Vidal have been doing at the State level and wondering what could parents do. 1348 03:00:28.070 --> 03:00:31.830 WLWV School Board: And I will say there is a gap there 1349 03:00:32.250 --> 03:00:41.109 WLWV School Board: right now. Legislators are hearing from School Board members. They're hearing from the Oregon Education Association, which is licensed teachers. 1350 03:00:41.560 --> 03:00:47.849 WLWV School Board: But they're not hearing from parents so collective. There's a Pta, an Oregon Pta. 1351 03:00:48.020 --> 03:00:59.270 WLWV School Board: and if I would hope that this community would now reach out to Oregon, Pta and say, Why are you not down at Salem, or can we coalesce and have a movement down at Salem. 1352 03:00:59.760 --> 03:01:11.309 WLWV School Board: Because we do need to get stories down there from parents. I think legislators often are much more moved by parents than they are by employees of school districts around State funding. 1353 03:01:12.110 --> 03:01:25.039 WLWV School Board: So I would say that. And I want to again on behalf of the staff. Thank all of you for your leadership, and as we mentioned, we will respect any decision you make, and it's 1354 03:01:25.330 --> 03:01:30.069 WLWV School Board: looks clear where this is going, and absolutely respected, and work very hard 1355 03:01:30.250 --> 03:01:33.369 WLWV School Board: for our students to have an incredible experience in school in the fall. 1356 03:01:36.040 --> 03:01:42.159 WLWV School Board: But I think if you want to hold these nice people up. Go ahead. 1357 03:01:43.140 --> 03:01:54.529 WLWV School Board: I would love to hold you up all right. I wanted to let you know that director sloop and I were laser focused on this meeting, and we've been laser focused on it. 1358 03:01:55.293 --> 03:02:08.390 WLWV School Board: For the last month. And so we promise you that we have. We will reach out to parents who are interested about the February 17th 1359 03:02:08.670 --> 03:02:16.319 WLWV School Board: Advocacy day at the Oregon State Capitol. So we will have more information to come. Thank you so much. 1360 03:02:23.370 --> 03:02:24.190 WLWV School Board: Okay, 1361 03:02:25.790 --> 03:02:39.309 WLWV School Board: Director Douglas, would you please cast the vote? Thank you, director, shoemaker. Aye, director, sloop. Aye, chair, Taylor. Aye, vice chair, Wyatt. Aye, director, vidal. Aye, thank you 1362 03:02:43.940 --> 03:02:45.530 WLWV School Board: no clapping, please. 1363 03:02:46.380 --> 03:02:50.919 WLWV School Board: That's a joke. That's a joke. That's a joke. Come on, you guys, you guys ain't no fun. 1364 03:02:53.940 --> 03:02:54.825 WLWV School Board: Hi, 1365 03:02:57.150 --> 03:03:00.090 WLWV School Board: Well, before we go. 1366 03:03:02.470 --> 03:03:06.729 WLWV School Board: This means that we do not need the meeting for tomorrow. Correct? 1367 03:03:08.290 --> 03:03:11.450 WLWV School Board: I guess I'd also challenge people in the room to 1368 03:03:12.740 --> 03:03:17.229 WLWV School Board: not always jump to conclusions, I guess. Just wait for the process to play out. 1369 03:03:17.630 --> 03:03:23.450 WLWV School Board: We heard from a lot of you, some of you not so nice thinking that it was a predetermined 1370 03:03:23.790 --> 03:03:30.470 WLWV School Board: thing, and it wasn't. It never was. We didn't know any more than you knew, and that was real. That was truthful. 1371 03:03:30.570 --> 03:03:32.980 WLWV School Board: whether you believed it or not. And so 1372 03:03:33.160 --> 03:03:37.880 WLWV School Board: we just ask that as you move forward and you, the board changes over, and 1373 03:03:38.360 --> 03:03:41.899 WLWV School Board: that you give board members an opportunity to 1374 03:03:42.130 --> 03:03:47.569 WLWV School Board: to do their job and let a process play out. I guess so with that I'll adjourn the meeting.